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YPA change of picture
by dozy inanybody got any idea why the cover picture on the young people ask book was changed?
they removed the picture of the boy bottom right & superimposed a different head.
maybe the guy got dfd or maybe it was to change it to an asian guy rather than 2 caucasians?
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Lords Witnesses - JW splinter group - latest predictions
by dozy inamongst the many jw splinter groups , the "lords witnesses" are amongst the more interesting / amusing / depressing ( delete as applicable ).
the de-facto leader , gordon ritchie , was quite a well known jw in the uk in the past.
there was an amusing article in the times about him a few years ago ( https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/the-end-of-the-world-is-nigh-its-name-is-gordon-g3qxf8w5fn9 ) firewall / free to subscribe.
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Feigning illness to miss a meeting
by dozy inas jws , we all remember the thought of dragging oneself out of bed on a nice sunny sunday meeting or getting home tired after a hard day at work contemplating another boring , pointless , repetitive weekday evening meeting.. as the only legitimate reason for missing a meeting is illness , the only way for anyone to avoid a meeting that they really couldn't be bothered to go to ( ie most of them ) is to "pretend" to be ill. so given an average meeting attendance of 60% or so , invariably many people would be missing , presumed dead ( or "ill".
we used to have a congregation game of football ( soccer ) on a sunday afternoon and it always amused me how many jws who were "too ill" to attend the meeting on the morning would suddenly recover , lazarus style , to play without exhibiting any signs of the apparently near fatal acute health condition of that morning.
one of the more officious elders tried to introduce a rule that the only ones who could play would have to have been at the meeting that morning , but in practice it was very difficult to police and the better players tended to be the ones who missed most meetings.. one of the problems was the risk that some well meaning and / or nosey jw would phone up ( or even turn up , unannounced ) at the house to see "how you were" and clearly it didn't go down too well if they found you in rude health chasing the dog or kids around the garden..
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Interesting new use for Kingdom Hall
by dozy inhttp://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/police-find-800-cannabis-plants-12839462.
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Appealing a disfellowshipping - any experience
by dozy inanyone had any experience of a successful appeal against a disfellowship?
a friend of mine feels he has been dfd unjustifiably & is considering an appeal.
he probably has something of a case - the jc was a total shambles - but i'm very dubious that he has any likelihood of success.. my only experience of a successful appeal is when elders in a neighbouring congregation were appointed by the co & overturned a df in our congregation a few years ago.
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Article in Times (UK) newspaper today about Bretheren
by dozy inthere is an article in todays times newspaper about the exclusive brethren which is a not dissimilar group to the jws in th uk ( shunning , no xmas , everyone outside of the group is worldly & bad association etc.
) there is a 2 spread page inside the paper with experiences from those who have been disfellowshipped etc.. the charities commission are looking into the group which claims millions in tax reliefs.
i get the impression they are starting to clamp down on the many religions / pseudo religions that claim this.. http://www.thetimes.co.uk/tto/faith/article4384092.ece.
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Simon Cowell gets a new JW New World Translation Bible
by dozy incould he be the next "celebrity" jw?
:-) .
https://www.facebook.com/jwmediawatch/timeline.
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WT Mar 15th 2012 - 144,000 no longer a literal number?
by dozy inreading idly through this magazine , i read the study article "rejoicing in our hope" which discusses the two "hopes" according to the wtbts ie heaven & earth.. a couple of points were of interest:.
(1) absolutely no mention at all of the 144,000 or rev 14. usually an article like this would be filled with references , but it isn't even mentioned.
it does discuss the "limited number" , but only in contrast with the "no man can number" great crowd.. (2) a much more laid back attitude towards the two hopes.
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Is the number of JWs leaving increasing?
by dozy ini don't mean jws getting stumbled or bored or getting dfd for immorality- there always have been a certain number of those all the time.. i've been out for a few years now but am curious to know from "still ins" if there is any evidence of increasing numbers of people leaving for classic "apostate" reasons - ie either fading or getting dfd because they have done research & realise that this isn't "the truth".. when i was a jw occasionally i would hear of someone suddenly stopping going to meetings & hearing through the grapevine & jw gossip mill that the person no longer believed it was the truth or had expressed doubts in the "slave" etc.
but it didn't happen very often ( though it was increasing somewhat in the years before i left).. one would imagine with the internet & increased information available to all that this would be happening more often.
any evidence of this , anecdotally?
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Honeymoon Disfellowshippings
by dozy inone of the anomalies of the disfellowshipping process is the common situation when someone who is unscripturally divorced remarries.
in these occasions , the instruction is to always disfellowship the individual , regardless of repentance or attitude - what is referred to as a honeymoon df in elders jargon.
hence you have the (to me) bizarre situation of privately reproving a child molester , rapist or murderer one week and disfellowshipping a newly remarried middle aged sister who has been divorced for 20 years the next week.