Posts by AudeSapere

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For anybody who is going to dissassociate.......

by EndofMysteries in

i haven't officially because of family.

but i see many times on this board those who do it it and write a letter to send a message.

(hoping it gets the elders reading it to think).

AudeSapere

JWN poster 'Littletoe' went out with a bang. He DA'd whilst delivering the public talk one Sunday.

However, a few years later he said it maybe wasn't the best way to go.

-Aude.

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I sent my DA letter in yesterday.

by quellycatface in

feel like i've been in a car accident and i'm on the road to recovery....i wonder what will happen next??

my husband, (non jw) says he would'nt be surprised if they df'd me as one or two elders are quite spiteful.

can they can't fire me cos i quit, surely??.

AudeSapere

DF or DA is sort of just semantics. The official announcement is the same and the shunning treatment is the same.

Actually, DA is often considered worse as they assume apostacy, and therefore (almost) unforgiveable.

A DA letter is not right for everyone. But for some, it is incredibly cathartic.

I hope the letter gives *you* the closure and result that *you* want.

-Aude.

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Interview with an Apostate: Dazed but not confused

by dazed but not confused in

tell us a little about yourself and your family.. my wife and i are born ins.

we have 2 beautiful children.

whenever i run into jws i knew, they usually give me a hug and tell me they miss me.. how long have you now been out?.

AudeSapere

You made his Halloween costume out of his meeting clothes! Brilliant~!! I bet you had more fun than he did with that project.

-Aude.

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i am really enoying the many interviews that have been posted over the past few days, hopefully there will be lots more to come.. would it be possible to collect them all in a new sub-forum for future reference?

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it would be a shame if they disappeared down the topics list never to be seen again..

AudeSapere

I'm enjoying them, too.

Until the 'new & improved' forum is complete, I think putting them under 'Personal Experiences' is an easy way to keep track of these great posts.

-Aude.

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No longer a former JW, I am now a Human Being

by AllTimeJeff in

jw
friends

lurkers, debaters, haters, lovers, the lost, the found, and the misplaced.

it's been a while, and i wanted to pop in.

the point isn't to agree.

AudeSapere

ATJ wrote: I would say one thing that is very important; Get it out. Bleed a bit. (But dress and heal the wound, lest it get infected) Get angry, get pissed, empathize, sympathize, love, help, and support. But don't forget to live outside this forum. I can say one thing with certainty: If all you have is this forum right now, please know, I, along with many others, have been there. Just don't stay there. If this forum is all you have, understand that this is a way station, a place to take a break, reorganize, and learn what you want to take with you on the rest of your journey.

Thanks for popping in!

-Aude.

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lunch

by Hortensia in

jw
friends

i had lunch with two ex-jws today.

i wish i could meet more of you -- it's fun to hear everyone's stories and find out what they are doing with their lives..

AudeSapere

Seriously true.

I've never had a 'dud' meet-up with xjw's.

-Aude.

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Disfellowshipping - Why the Governing Body can not ease up on dissenters.

by mindnumbed in

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlbwnjglymu.

AudeSapere

Threads like these really help me with non-jw family. Since I have some family still in, they don't understand why there is rift between me and my active family while the non-jws have done worse things - normal, but worse by jw standards.

When I try to explain to them, they seem to try real hard to believe what I'm saying about the org but there is something in their eyes and voice that makes me think that they think/assume there is something terrible in my own past or that I'm just trying to cause trouble for my still-active relatives.

So I try to avoid the discussion when I can.

But when the conversation turns to those 'lovely' JWs in my life and my relationship with them, it's great to have a thread like this that I just send a link to. When 5, 10, 30 50 people post and all have similar experience, it helps take the personal emotion out of the equation and highlights that it is a system-wide problem inherent with the JW organization and JW mentality.

Thank you for posting this. And special thanks to Data-Dog! - I had not read that transcript for a long time. Never knew of it when I was 'in', but played out conversation along that theme in my head when I started to awaken to my own 'Truth' about the truth.

-Aude. (AudeSapere - meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Wisdom/Understanding; Dare to Think for Yourself.)

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Relationship Issues: Boundaries, Freedom of Choice and Codependency

by 00DAD in

relationship issues: boundaries, freedom of choice and codependency .

i just read a very interesting thought in the book, "boundaries" by cloud & townsend.

the basic problem in human relationship is that of freedom.

AudeSapere

(Marking to read later.)

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XJW meets with 140 Jehovahs Witnesses

by Watchtower-Free in

xjw.

tracy metcalfe https://www.facebook.com/tracy.metcalfe.100?hc_location=streamof ex-jehovah's witness recovery group 3 on facebook.

started a letter writing campaign a few yrs ago to congregations.

AudeSapere

(Marking for later)

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BESTSELLERS--who actually buys these things?

by Terry in

jw
friends

just think, rush limbaugh and bill o'reilly are knocking about on top of the bestseller list to the tune of 52,000+ copies each!.

i say, who buys these books?.

i've read killing lincoln, killing kennedy and killing jesus--but, i did it by sitting in the library--not by plopping down $20+ bucks each.. i only read one rush limbaugh book.. i use to be a political junkie but stopped cold turkey exactly 11 months ago.. i no longer watch any political programs or read any political books.. i'm a lot happier for it it, too.. .

AudeSapere

I think we all need to learn how to self-promote. It's part of how we advance in careers and life, too.

A thread I'd really like to see is a list of all the posters here who have written books. All in one thread. The authors can promote, promote, promote away.

Bryan - Have You Seen My Mother?

Living the Dream - Journey to God's House

Rebel8 - (forget the name)

Estee - (forget the name)

Terry - I Wept by the Rivers of Babylon

On the Way Out - Fade Truth Learning Unlearning (Is this the only one? Title is not familiar. I bought your ebook but it got deleted before I read it and then I lost my Kindle.)

I know there's bunches of others. Seems like 3 or 4 a year(??)

Maybe someone can start a new thread with a listing of our book-writing boardmates...?

-Aude.