recently e-watchman started deleting/suspending (theres a difference?
) accounts of people on the e-jehovahs-witnesses.com forum left and right which he and the moderating team deemed to be discussing apostate things as in apostate in brother kings own vision, further detailed in some posts (basicly barring out discussions of jw doctrine).. i suppose my own offenses was my "staying in the org.
" thread and one that explained that one should not depend on kh's to be able of worshipping.
Cindy,
Very well put.
Brant
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Re: Timothy Kline
I think he is a paid moderator of EW. I'm not sure about the pay, but he has made it clear that although he does not agree with EW on everything, that he will enforce the rules of the DB.
Thats not much of a hypocritical stand is it?
Brant
recently e-watchman started deleting/suspending (theres a difference?
) accounts of people on the e-jehovahs-witnesses.com forum left and right which he and the moderating team deemed to be discussing apostate things as in apostate in brother kings own vision, further detailed in some posts (basicly barring out discussions of jw doctrine).. i suppose my own offenses was my "staying in the org.
" thread and one that explained that one should not depend on kh's to be able of worshipping.
i saw this on another site.. .
http://www.sheffieldtoday.net/viewarticle2.aspx?sectionid=58&articleid=1944306.
brant.
I saw this on another site.
http://www.sheffieldtoday.net/ViewArticle2.aspx?SectionID=58&ArticleID=1944306
Brant
as you may know rutherford completly changed the original teachings and structure of the watchtower bible and tract society.some say he and his followers were cursed from that day forward.....what you may not know is,rutherford died of "rectal cancer"..the doctors first noticed a crack in his bum.as things degenerated in that area,a small hole appeared.finally it rotted out and he died..to this very day,every jehovah`s witness has died with a hole in thier bum.....coincidence or curse?
?...outlaw
Outlaw,
This is bitter news for me. I thought Rutherford was a perfect asshole.
Disappointment rules!
Brant
as a teenager i read the following books in school that i feel had a profound effect on me and my character building.
a man for all seasons by robert bolt (a play) .
to kill a mockingbird by harper lee.
I also read Lord of the Flies
To Kill a Mockingbird
Animal Farm
1984
They were among my favorites!
Also enjoyed J.D. Salingers'--Catcher in the Rye
Read a lot of Steinbeck in High School too, especially enjoyed Tortilla Flat and Grapes of Wrath and In Dubious Battle.
My favorite of all time is the two volume, "Winds of War" and War and Remembrance" by Herman Wouk. Unbelieveable works!
Sci-Fi--Dune
Real light reading--Louis L'amour
Brant
my friend called and told me there were 3 announcements last night at the kh saying x, x, & x are no longer jw's.
they all da'd themselves.
all 3 sent letters out to a select group of friends and family before they gave their letters to the elders.
Give me an 'i'
Brant
is there anyone here that used to or currently posts there?.
i did over a year ago, right before robert came out of the closet and went nutsoid.. he weirds me out.
and the other people are like sheeple.. i am so glad i found this place.. can we say delusions of grandure.
Hi Justitia,
I was proud of you when I went back over there and saw your post regarding the theft of Leolias work by trustjah! Good Job. Are you going to the refugee Cafe with some of us? I hope so.
So many of you have a lot of experience with Robert that I don't have, and I appreciate and accept your statements.
I think Serendipity has it about right. Most over there reject RK's personal teachings, but some of course accept them. What I liked about the site was that it seemed to be a "baby step" away from the Organization. Lots of people are unable the take a huge 'jump' away from the borg, but once they found the EW site, they felt safe and secure that the site was "promoting" the organization.
That provided a lot of opportunity for them to see some of the 'truth about the truth' and begin their stroll away from the WT. I regret not being able to be there and help them in their walk AWAY.
This board, while it has the most scholarly approach, and some of the smartest people that I have ever seen, is quite challenging to the dissonance of the newly disenchanted Witnesses.
Over there, EW, it was like being at a baby-sitters house, over here, it is like being a kindergartner being put out in the middle of I-95 in rush hour. I hope some of you know what I am trying to say.
I think the number that have left has approached 35, maybe even 40.
Glad to be here too.
Brant
nounthe state, action, or principle of treating all persons equally in accordance with the law.
fairness is something familiar to even the smallest child.
being treated without bias is a hunger humanity has fought for in every society; some less successfully than in present day.. in america we are guaranteed fairness when dealing with the state or federal government due to the imbalance of relative power between the individual and the state.
Thanks Terry,
Great thread.
Honesty--good pic.
Brant
is there anyone here that used to or currently posts there?.
i did over a year ago, right before robert came out of the closet and went nutsoid.. he weirds me out.
and the other people are like sheeple.. i am so glad i found this place.. can we say delusions of grandure.
Leolaia,
Again you astound me. Not only do you write an amazint post, but you managed to catch TrustJah stealing it from you. If I could still post over there, I would bring that to the DB attention.
Outlaw, I am sure that you have your rights to be angry at RK, and I am not too happy with him myself, but you need to kind of 'let go' a little. He's not that big of a deal to carry around intense anger.
Brant
just wondering if anyone else feels the same way.. i've been out of the organization for about 4 years, but i still love jehovah and jesus, and i want to serve them the right way.
does anyone here feel a great sense of religious confusion now that you are not attending meetings?.
at the moment, i feel miserable, since i'm going through a divorce.
Lost,
One of the people that replied to your post was AGENT 7.
I would like to warn you that it was his first post. In his post, he very smoothly tried to place himself and you in the "same boat", with similar problems with mates. In my 60 year old man opinion, he is setting you up to turn to him, as he has now warned you about the rest of us. Please be careful with him, I have a very bad feeling about him.
My name is Brant Jones, and I post as Uninformed, that is UN informed. I have posted for about a year, and I am not the sharpest knife in the drawer. You will find great comfort with a number of good people, some who have suffered like yourself, and some who have been extremely active in the Organization and were either disfellowshipped, like myself, for not accepting the WT daliance with the UN, or others who have walked away.
Since you are new here, I would readily recommend Blondie as a soul that will inform you and protect your interests. There are so many here that will be of great help to you.
There is a feature on this board that you can read other people's post history. I would definitely do that before becoming too confidential with them.
My wife and I and three of our children left the organization one and a half years ago, after many letters to the WT and many elders meetings. 6 months ago, they decided they were not content to just let us walk away after 45 years, but they decided to kick us out.
I was an elder for 30 years. Worked in Bethel as a temp const. worker about 10 times in the 80's and both my sons, one who is still an elder and has disowned us, went to Bethel during the late 80's and early 90's. My son who left with me went through similar problems with a mate that you have, but I am happy to say he is happily re-married, and he and his new wife, also a JW, were very relieved to leave the organization together.
There is life after the Organization, but to be honest, sometimes I still feel depressed and like crying over the lost feelings. You will too for years to come. BUT, the best day of our lives was the day we got disfellowshipped. We KNEW we weren't bad and we KNEW we didn't do anything wrong. THEY did the wrong and disfellowshipped us for their sin. What a blessing it has been to be apart from that Organization.
Please, again, be careful with Agent 7, methinks he is a double agent.
Brant
