Posts by freemindfade

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If this isn't the truth, then what is our hope?

by Gigi2121 in

i'm new here but not new to researching and questioning the jw beliefs.

i have quite a story.... one that's been haunting me for awhile... but first, i'd like to hear what people have to say about this topic question, please.. -gigi.

freemindfade

There is a beauty in letting go of all your beliefs and hopes, go to square one. Really come to terms with the idea of "this is it" let it sink in, then start over. See if you needed those hopes all along, with the fear of the unknown fear of death and so on. There is a zen like feeling that happens when you come to terms with the fact that the only person in control of anything is you, and you aren't in control of much, when you realize that it is ok to not have all the answers and know the outcome of everything, at that point is when you really start to live and learn. try it.

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Update

by freemindfade in

so since i blew up at my family for being self righteous hate mongers, my uncle sent me a huge letter calling my ignorant and uncaring.

to which i exploded back with an email.

may have gone a bit too far on that one, but whatever what is done is done.

freemindfade

My uncle gave me an example of the Gibeonites, who joined with the Israelites, I felt like asking him, was that because they loved YHWH? Or scared of being killed by him and his goat herding tribesmen?

DFing is the same, no? do this because you are afraid. So I am not afraid of anything so I wont be afraid of DFing, I'll do my best to avoid it, but I don't fear it.

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Epiphany moment this morning!!

by kairos in

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after all my reading, conversations, study, meditating, video watching, etc.. this for me, could very well be the "end all" topic to clearly define why being a jw is useless.. there is zero scriptural evidence that following the rules of a "governing body" of men is required to be acceptable to god or to gain salvation ( everlasting life in paradise ).. when asked by anyone, this will be my reply.

"show me the evidence".... i don't care if it cries out, "i'm an apostate"!.

whomever hears the comment will not be able to ignore it.

freemindfade

cappytan

Yes I remember walking into assemblies and laughing at Apostates yelling at us, but they were also thumping the bible. But I think things are different now, I think we are as mad and as frustrated, but we know if you want to be affective and smart there is a way to try to do it. Something I lost control of when i blew up at my family, I lost my famous cool.

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Update

by freemindfade in

so since i blew up at my family for being self righteous hate mongers, my uncle sent me a huge letter calling my ignorant and uncaring.

to which i exploded back with an email.

may have gone a bit too far on that one, but whatever what is done is done.

freemindfade

kairos, I'll message you when I get a chance

Here was my original rant... I usually ignore all this until they stop but kept getting emails to no end. My response that probably made my families jaws hit the floor was this: (sorry for grammar errors etc, i was pissed.)

"I think its barbaric and being obsessed with a global genocide of unbelievers makes us more like ISIS than I care to feel like. It’s a fine line, and I the idea behind it is similar.

Doesn’t build my faith, or make me feel the end is any closer and I have watched some of the actual videos, them burning someone alive who they feel doesn’t have what they consider “The Truth”. Maybe more witnesses should watch the actual videos. Because emails and discussions like this I see a similar blood lust that ISIS displays the only difference is one I wishing for it and saying god will do it and the other is wishing for it and acting on it, but the spirit feels the same. I was trying not to say anything but I keep getting them. And trying to predict “The End”, how many times can that not happen before you feel lied to? A “cry wolf” situation. In that story were the people blamed for not believing the boy when he said this it the last time? No because it creates a underlying distrust. You won’t have to go to school, you won’t have to get a job, you won’t have to have kids, you won’t get old… this is the last car I’ll ever own, this is it, this year, now this is it."

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Update

by freemindfade in

so since i blew up at my family for being self righteous hate mongers, my uncle sent me a huge letter calling my ignorant and uncaring.

to which i exploded back with an email.

may have gone a bit too far on that one, but whatever what is done is done.

freemindfade

Agree with both of you. I may have hastened my fade, I don't want to lose my brother, I really do love him and my nieces and nephews. The carzy thing is non of them are strong JW at all. Miss most meetings, dont do service and so on and so on. But with this, they will stand up. The rest of my family views them as WEAK already. I am familiar with FOG model and BITE model.

I hope that I can postpone any kind of DFing. I really don't want that, and my family is all on the other side of the country, not even sure if they know what hall I am in now, I am going to say no they dont.

If anything I think this is making my wife see some reason believe it or not. The two of us have had many knock down drag out (metaphorically speaking) fights about the "Truth". And that is coming to an end. Not happening anymore. She has become far less judgmental as of late, not just of me, but in general.

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Ooops. They're back at the anti-type game.

by scotoma in

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i thought it was ex"plane"d at the corporate meeting that type-antitypes were finished unless it expressly is stated in the bible.. from the feb 22 study article.

question on paragraph 11- what comparison found at psalm 122:3,4 could be applied to god's people today?.

during the coming time of trouble for this system, we will have to be truly united.

freemindfade

It's because the bible plagiarized so many stories during its creation there it may seem that way because things are the same damn story

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Update

by freemindfade in

so since i blew up at my family for being self righteous hate mongers, my uncle sent me a huge letter calling my ignorant and uncaring.

to which i exploded back with an email.

may have gone a bit too far on that one, but whatever what is done is done.

freemindfade

So since I blew up at my family for being self righteous hate mongers, my uncle sent me a huge letter calling my ignorant and uncaring. To which I exploded back with an email. May have gone a bit too far on that one, but whatever what is done is done.

Since, my brother will not return my texts, no work from mom, or uncle. not sure how many other people in my family know, but they love to talk about negative things so I am sure they are sharing this tragedy of me losing faith in God and JW.org.

On a side note, the wife seems very sympathetic to my predicament. She seems very neutral, but still not taking their side at all.

I love my family and they all knew I was fading for a long time (according to them they've been "worried for a while").

So stupid so they'd rather me fake it (for their sake I guess) than be honest. So then if I renounce my rational mind to them and say JW.ORG is the best thing since sugar free cult koolaid, but still practice doubt and sin in private, whats the effing point of dfing for being an apostate?????

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I quit the Theocratic Ministry School

by My Name is of No Consequence in

after almost 24 years in the school and doing it since i was nine years old, i officially resigned.

it has become increasingly difficult to prepare talks, especially with the new format for brothers.

i did not mind doing them; i actually put the time and effort into getting them out.

freemindfade

My Name is of No Consequence

congrats and dont be too sad you took something beneficial from it, see it as just that. enjoy the freedom

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Living in the era of "Generation Me"

by campaign of hate in

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this really got to me today at the wt study.. i am not ashamed to admit, i am part of that "generation".. you get one role of the dice in this life, you got to take what you can now, in order to have a good quality life later.. i agree, we need to help and show love to our fellow man.

but, not when this becomes the priority above our own needs, wants and aspirations.. welcome to "generation me" wt, this is my time.. peace out..

freemindfade

When you give yourself the right attention. And are generous and honest with who you are. There is an interesting side effect. You actually become more beneficial to others. Living in the jw vortex. You claim to be giving to others but are really always out for your own goals. Hours. Not to be humiliated. And so on. Screw them. Love yourself and you become more of an asset to others.

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Islamic ISIS, the Christian Jehovah’s Witnesses, the Watchtower, and their Governing Body

by 9328737 in

hi everybody, .

i am currently working on this subject in my blog just in case you are interested.. http://testigoscristianosdejehova.blogspot.com/2015/02/islamic-isis-christian-jehovahs_22.html.

thanks!.

freemindfade

I like it. I have heard a few refer to their publications as saying that if they could kill apostates legally they would. Can anyone show me one of these because I would love to have it. I know the unwritten feeling they have. But I would love to see something like that in print if it does exist.