It's time to start taking pride in being a spiritually weak JW. When you feel humiliated you are giving them this power over you. Don't give them the satisfaction. I'd wear it like a badge, when this thing keeps getting wackier and wackier and some are feeling uncomfortable and start waking up theyll look up to your peace of mind.
freemindfade
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Breaking away from the JW programming and mind control
by suavojr init amazes me how much power mind control can have over your emotions, your behavior and thoughts.
let me explain, apathy has taken over a close family that my wife and i care about.
the cognitive dissonance within this family is huge.
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Breaking away from the JW programming and mind control
by suavojr init amazes me how much power mind control can have over your emotions, your behavior and thoughts.
let me explain, apathy has taken over a close family that my wife and i care about.
the cognitive dissonance within this family is huge.
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The feeling is associated with humiliation we used to feel.
Part of the force behind mind control, being called weak, having people judging you in their mind, it's not their actions its the empathetic feelings you are having for what they are going through, something witness do not have empathy.
I had a friend that DA'd himself a month or so ago, he was not even interested in TTATT, but just so over being a witness. I tried to explain to him that fading and still being able to talk to your mom etc was preferable. But he wanted to officially end it. I didn't debate with him because there would be no changing his mind, so I just let him know I'd still be here and support him either way.
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Am I a Luciferian??
by freemindfade inso my uncle wrote me a long letter out of concern, it was filled with bit of love and concern here and there but also a lot of staunch dogmatic and at times down right disturbing thoughts and assumptions.
if you doubt the bible or jw.org, seems even close family feels you are on a one way track to death by godville.
anyway, he accused me of being a luciferian.
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Caedes I agree, it keeps going back to really just being a complete and good person, someone is always going to try and make a 'Church' out of it so people can belong. I just wanted to have fun with this, the original Athiest Luciferian's were probably given that title by someone else lol, they were just nice people who minded their own business and weren't @$$holes -
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Something I would like to see if anyone has time
by freemindfade ini am absolutely swamped right now or i would take this on as a project, i would love to see a 3 column table.
jehovahs witnesses mormons scientology.
as i think these are some of the largest mainstream if you will cults.
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I am absolutely swamped right now or i would take this on as a project, I would love to see a 3 column table
Jehovahs Witnesses Mormons Scientology
As I think these are some of the largest Mainstream if you will cults. Then I would like a a comparison of things they do the same. Ie JW shun-Yes Mormon shun-yes and so on down the line. Witnesses think they are so special and unique and they aren't, they also don't believe they are in a wacky cult and they are, I think the chart could show both things
Anyone into this homework?
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Am I a Luciferian??
by freemindfade inso my uncle wrote me a long letter out of concern, it was filled with bit of love and concern here and there but also a lot of staunch dogmatic and at times down right disturbing thoughts and assumptions.
if you doubt the bible or jw.org, seems even close family feels you are on a one way track to death by godville.
anyway, he accused me of being a luciferian.
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freemindfade
Agreed.
I told my uncle who is a hardcore elder, for one moment tell yourself there is no god, no satan, and you are a bronze age tribal leader who wants to not have people question you, and viola! Man Woman Knowledge Snake... "don't questions authority" "Don't seek knowledge" "Don't think for yourself" and so on.
When you read the ideas of Jeduo Christian religions, then Arcadic Luciferianism, its like "ok...." one is a judgmental jealous cynical bash fest, and the other is a tolerant knowledge and peace seeking idea. The latter sounds more like Jesus area of the bible than YHWH's, I won't say Jehovah because that doesn't exist, that is a name made up by a Dominican Monk, YHWH was the god of the Hebrews, along with El, and also one of the Canaanites gods and the god of an ancient Midianite cult from the place where Moses went to live after leaving egpyt, where he got his wife... and his step dad was most likely a part of that sheep herding cult.
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Doh! wife is about to hear the trololol song
by freemindfade indoh!
here i sit on my laptop on this site, while the wife is watching dubtv over there, she is watching the feb one with trololololy song at the end... i am trying to hold back my laughter because i know it is coming soon!
how will she react???
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Will JWTV now have new world idol???
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ApostateChick Strikes again "Jehovah's Witnesses--Why The @#$% Are You Here? "
by Watchtower-Free infyi just saw her latest youtube vid.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwd72g8pb3q.
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Am I a Luciferian??
by freemindfade inso my uncle wrote me a long letter out of concern, it was filled with bit of love and concern here and there but also a lot of staunch dogmatic and at times down right disturbing thoughts and assumptions.
if you doubt the bible or jw.org, seems even close family feels you are on a one way track to death by godville.
anyway, he accused me of being a luciferian.
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So my uncle wrote me a long letter out of concern, it was filled with bit of love and concern here and there but also a lot of staunch dogmatic and at times down right disturbing thoughts and assumptions. If you doubt the bible or jw.org, seems even close family feels you are on a one way track to death by godville.
Anyway, he accused me of being a Luciferian. I was like well if I don't believe in god, then by default... no devil. But funny enough I looked it up on the almighty Wikipedias. Apparently there is this thing called Athiest Luciferianism... and while I am not looking for religion or title, or any kind of affiliation....IT DOESN"T SOUND HALF BAD. It actually sounds just like me lol!
Named for the ancient mythological society of Arcadia, this branch of atheistic Luciferianism is a unique marriage of secular humanism and Neopagan culture. Unlike most Luciferians, Arcadians do not believe in or engage in the literal practice of magic or the occult. Although they do revere mythology and religious lore, and may involve themselves in traditional Neopagan rites, they shun the idea of a higher power or universal plan. Most Arcadians actively celebrate the pagan seasonal festivals based on the Wheel of the Year, primarily as part of a cherished cultural tradition, but unlike other types of Luciferians, they interpret all such rites as purely symbolic and otherwise distance themselves from the occult. The stories and figures of ancient cultures function as representations and creative manifestations of individual morals and Luciferian philosophy.
Like its namesake, this form of Luciferianism prefers the concept of a natural life, free from the burdens and expectations of modern civilization, particularly those triggered by theistic beliefs. Like secular humanists, Arcadians glorify reason, equality and progressive thought, and look down on religious dogma. Objectivity, science and personal exploration or discovery are treasured beyond anything else, with the ultimate goal being a world of peace, acceptance and unity that is neither imposed nor hindered by theism, entirely free of the supernatural. Unlike Humanists, however, they have a deep appreciation for spiritual symbolism. They incorporate mythological figures and stories into their lives as representations of humanistic ideals, their outlook directly influenced by secular interpretations of those concepts, and how such ideas may apply to the scientific world or the past, present and future of humanity.
I feel like being accused of this might not be so insulting, like "hey you are too handsome", or "stop being so cool" lol.
Any other accidental Luciferians out there????
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism
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Had a major blow out
by freemindfade inmy mom was emailing a group thread of rhetoric about isis and armageddon, and i finally got sick of it and said some pretty intense harsh things about ideals, and wishing for armageddon.
then it went back and forth like some debate, all the while i am holding back unloading serious ttatt on my family.
i put a whole bunch of scriptures where the wonderful yahweh committed infanticide.
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Perry
Does that make it right? What did the first born in Egypt do to God? THEY WERE CHILDREN. Go show your god how loyal you are, go find an unbeliever and kill their kids, let me know how easy that is for you. Or what about non-kids that were "his enemy" his own people, they get out of egpyt, they have a party and give credit t to a statue. If the story were true, I guess it doesn't sound too bright, is it worthy of being hacked to pieces by your family?
If you believe in this god, just so you know I share Mr. Dawkins thought:
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
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Had a major blow out
by freemindfade inmy mom was emailing a group thread of rhetoric about isis and armageddon, and i finally got sick of it and said some pretty intense harsh things about ideals, and wishing for armageddon.
then it went back and forth like some debate, all the while i am holding back unloading serious ttatt on my family.
i put a whole bunch of scriptures where the wonderful yahweh committed infanticide.
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@Perry
21 Prepare a slaughtering block for his sons
Because of the guilt of their forefathers,
So that they will not rise up and take over the earth
And fill the land with their cities.”
11 E′phra・im’s glory flies away like a bird;
There is no giving birth, no pregnancy, and no conception.+
12 Even if they raise children,
I will bereave them until no man is left;+
Yes, woe to them when I turn away from them!+
13 E′phra・im, planted in a pasture, was to me like Tyre;+
Now E′phra・im must bring his sons out to the slaughter.”
14 Give them, O Jehovah, what you should give them;
A womb that miscarries and dry* breasts.
15 “All their wickedness was in Gil′gal,+ for there I came to hate them.
I will drive them away from my house because of their evil deeds.+
I will no longer love them;+
All their princes are stubborn.
16 E′phra・im will be struck down.+
Their root will dry up, and they will produce no fruit.
Even if they give birth, I will put to death their cherished offspring.”
5 And to the others he said in my hearing: “Go through the city after him and strike. Do not let your eye feel sorry, and do not feel any compassion.+ 6 Old man, young man, virgin, little child, and women you should kill off completely.+ But do not go near to any man on whom there is the mark.+ You should start from my sanctuary.”+ So they started with the elders who were in front of the house.+7 Then he said to them: “Defile the house and fill the courtyards with the slain.+Go!” So they went out and struck down people in the city.
29 Then at midnight, Jehovah struck down every firstborn in the land of Egypt,+from the firstborn of Phar′aoh who was sitting on his throne to the firstborn of the captive who was in the prison,* and every firstborn of the animals.+ 30 Phar′aoh got up that night along with all his servants and all the other Egyptians, and there was a great outcry among the Egyptians, because there was not a house where someone was not dead.+Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 8:36 PM
20 “You are a war club for me, a weapon for battle,
For with you I will smash nations.
With you I will bring kingdoms to ruin.
21 With you I will smash the horse and its rider.
With you I will smash the war chariot and its rider.
22 With you I will smash man and woman.
With you I will smash old man and boy.
With you I will smash young man and woman.
23 With you I will smash shepherd and his flock.
With you I will smash farmer and his team of animals.
With you I will smash governors and deputy rulers.
24 And I will repay Babylon and all the inhabitants of Chal・de′a
For all the evil that they have committed in Zion before your eyes,”+ declares Jehovah.
25 “Here I am against you,+ O destructive mountain,” declares Jehovah,
“You destroyer of the whole earth.+
I will stretch out my hand against you and roll you down from the crags
And make you a burned-out mountain.”
26 “People will not take from you a cornerstone or a foundation stone,
Because you will become desolate forever,”+ declares Jehovah.
21 “‘But if you keep walking in opposition to me and refuse to listen to me, I will then have to strike you seven times as much, according to your sins. 22 I will send the wild animals of the field among you,+ and they will bereave you of children+ and annihilate your domestic animals and reduce your numbers, and your roads will be deserted.+
15 Whoever is found will be pierced through,
And whoever is caught will fall by the sword.+
16 Their children will be dashed to pieces before their eyes,+
Their houses will be looted,
And their wives will be raped.
17 Here I am raising up against them the Medes,+
Who regard silver as nothing
And who take no delight in gold.
18 Their bows will shatter young men;+
They will show no pity on the fruit of the womb
Nor mercy to children.
23 He went up from there to Beth′el. As he was going along the way, some young boys came out from the city and began to jeer at him,+ and they kept saying to him: “Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!” 24 Finally he turned around and looked at them and cursed them in the name of Jehovah. Then two she-bears+ came out of the forest and tore 42 of the children to pieces.+
Rebel8 you are 100% right