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freemindfade
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Doh! wife is about to hear the trololol song
by freemindfade indoh!
here i sit on my laptop on this site, while the wife is watching dubtv over there, she is watching the feb one with trololololy song at the end... i am trying to hold back my laughter because i know it is coming soon!
how will she react???
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ApostateChick Strikes again "Jehovah's Witnesses--Why The @#$% Are You Here? "
by Watchtower-Free infyi just saw her latest youtube vid.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwd72g8pb3q.
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Am I a Luciferian??
by freemindfade inso my uncle wrote me a long letter out of concern, it was filled with bit of love and concern here and there but also a lot of staunch dogmatic and at times down right disturbing thoughts and assumptions.
if you doubt the bible or jw.org, seems even close family feels you are on a one way track to death by godville.
anyway, he accused me of being a luciferian.
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freemindfade
So my uncle wrote me a long letter out of concern, it was filled with bit of love and concern here and there but also a lot of staunch dogmatic and at times down right disturbing thoughts and assumptions. If you doubt the bible or jw.org, seems even close family feels you are on a one way track to death by godville.
Anyway, he accused me of being a Luciferian. I was like well if I don't believe in god, then by default... no devil. But funny enough I looked it up on the almighty Wikipedias. Apparently there is this thing called Athiest Luciferianism... and while I am not looking for religion or title, or any kind of affiliation....IT DOESN"T SOUND HALF BAD. It actually sounds just like me lol!
Named for the ancient mythological society of Arcadia, this branch of atheistic Luciferianism is a unique marriage of secular humanism and Neopagan culture. Unlike most Luciferians, Arcadians do not believe in or engage in the literal practice of magic or the occult. Although they do revere mythology and religious lore, and may involve themselves in traditional Neopagan rites, they shun the idea of a higher power or universal plan. Most Arcadians actively celebrate the pagan seasonal festivals based on the Wheel of the Year, primarily as part of a cherished cultural tradition, but unlike other types of Luciferians, they interpret all such rites as purely symbolic and otherwise distance themselves from the occult. The stories and figures of ancient cultures function as representations and creative manifestations of individual morals and Luciferian philosophy.
Like its namesake, this form of Luciferianism prefers the concept of a natural life, free from the burdens and expectations of modern civilization, particularly those triggered by theistic beliefs. Like secular humanists, Arcadians glorify reason, equality and progressive thought, and look down on religious dogma. Objectivity, science and personal exploration or discovery are treasured beyond anything else, with the ultimate goal being a world of peace, acceptance and unity that is neither imposed nor hindered by theism, entirely free of the supernatural. Unlike Humanists, however, they have a deep appreciation for spiritual symbolism. They incorporate mythological figures and stories into their lives as representations of humanistic ideals, their outlook directly influenced by secular interpretations of those concepts, and how such ideas may apply to the scientific world or the past, present and future of humanity.
I feel like being accused of this might not be so insulting, like "hey you are too handsome", or "stop being so cool" lol.
Any other accidental Luciferians out there????
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luciferianism
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Had a major blow out
by freemindfade inmy mom was emailing a group thread of rhetoric about isis and armageddon, and i finally got sick of it and said some pretty intense harsh things about ideals, and wishing for armageddon.
then it went back and forth like some debate, all the while i am holding back unloading serious ttatt on my family.
i put a whole bunch of scriptures where the wonderful yahweh committed infanticide.
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freemindfade
Perry
Does that make it right? What did the first born in Egypt do to God? THEY WERE CHILDREN. Go show your god how loyal you are, go find an unbeliever and kill their kids, let me know how easy that is for you. Or what about non-kids that were "his enemy" his own people, they get out of egpyt, they have a party and give credit t to a statue. If the story were true, I guess it doesn't sound too bright, is it worthy of being hacked to pieces by your family?
If you believe in this god, just so you know I share Mr. Dawkins thought:
“The God of the Old Testament is arguably the most unpleasant character in all fiction: jealous and proud of it; a petty, unjust, unforgiving control-freak; a vindictive, bloodthirsty ethnic cleanser; a misogynistic, homophobic, racist, infanticidal, genocidal, filicidal, pestilential, megalomaniacal, sadomasochistic, capriciously malevolent bully.”
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Had a major blow out
by freemindfade inmy mom was emailing a group thread of rhetoric about isis and armageddon, and i finally got sick of it and said some pretty intense harsh things about ideals, and wishing for armageddon.
then it went back and forth like some debate, all the while i am holding back unloading serious ttatt on my family.
i put a whole bunch of scriptures where the wonderful yahweh committed infanticide.
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freemindfade
@Perry
21 Prepare a slaughtering block for his sons
Because of the guilt of their forefathers,
So that they will not rise up and take over the earth
And fill the land with their cities.”
11 E′phra・im’s glory flies away like a bird;
There is no giving birth, no pregnancy, and no conception.+
12 Even if they raise children,
I will bereave them until no man is left;+
Yes, woe to them when I turn away from them!+
13 E′phra・im, planted in a pasture, was to me like Tyre;+
Now E′phra・im must bring his sons out to the slaughter.”
14 Give them, O Jehovah, what you should give them;
A womb that miscarries and dry* breasts.
15 “All their wickedness was in Gil′gal,+ for there I came to hate them.
I will drive them away from my house because of their evil deeds.+
I will no longer love them;+
All their princes are stubborn.
16 E′phra・im will be struck down.+
Their root will dry up, and they will produce no fruit.
Even if they give birth, I will put to death their cherished offspring.”
5 And to the others he said in my hearing: “Go through the city after him and strike. Do not let your eye feel sorry, and do not feel any compassion.+ 6 Old man, young man, virgin, little child, and women you should kill off completely.+ But do not go near to any man on whom there is the mark.+ You should start from my sanctuary.”+ So they started with the elders who were in front of the house.+7 Then he said to them: “Defile the house and fill the courtyards with the slain.+Go!” So they went out and struck down people in the city.
29 Then at midnight, Jehovah struck down every firstborn in the land of Egypt,+from the firstborn of Phar′aoh who was sitting on his throne to the firstborn of the captive who was in the prison,* and every firstborn of the animals.+ 30 Phar′aoh got up that night along with all his servants and all the other Egyptians, and there was a great outcry among the Egyptians, because there was not a house where someone was not dead.+Date: Tuesday, February 17, 2015 at 8:36 PM
20 “You are a war club for me, a weapon for battle,
For with you I will smash nations.
With you I will bring kingdoms to ruin.
21 With you I will smash the horse and its rider.
With you I will smash the war chariot and its rider.
22 With you I will smash man and woman.
With you I will smash old man and boy.
With you I will smash young man and woman.
23 With you I will smash shepherd and his flock.
With you I will smash farmer and his team of animals.
With you I will smash governors and deputy rulers.
24 And I will repay Babylon and all the inhabitants of Chal・de′a
For all the evil that they have committed in Zion before your eyes,”+ declares Jehovah.
25 “Here I am against you,+ O destructive mountain,” declares Jehovah,
“You destroyer of the whole earth.+
I will stretch out my hand against you and roll you down from the crags
And make you a burned-out mountain.”
26 “People will not take from you a cornerstone or a foundation stone,
Because you will become desolate forever,”+ declares Jehovah.
21 “‘But if you keep walking in opposition to me and refuse to listen to me, I will then have to strike you seven times as much, according to your sins. 22 I will send the wild animals of the field among you,+ and they will bereave you of children+ and annihilate your domestic animals and reduce your numbers, and your roads will be deserted.+
15 Whoever is found will be pierced through,
And whoever is caught will fall by the sword.+
16 Their children will be dashed to pieces before their eyes,+
Their houses will be looted,
And their wives will be raped.
17 Here I am raising up against them the Medes,+
Who regard silver as nothing
And who take no delight in gold.
18 Their bows will shatter young men;+
They will show no pity on the fruit of the womb
Nor mercy to children.
23 He went up from there to Beth′el. As he was going along the way, some young boys came out from the city and began to jeer at him,+ and they kept saying to him: “Go up, you baldhead! Go up, you baldhead!” 24 Finally he turned around and looked at them and cursed them in the name of Jehovah. Then two she-bears+ came out of the forest and tore 42 of the children to pieces.+
Rebel8 you are 100% right
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Had a major blow out
by freemindfade inmy mom was emailing a group thread of rhetoric about isis and armageddon, and i finally got sick of it and said some pretty intense harsh things about ideals, and wishing for armageddon.
then it went back and forth like some debate, all the while i am holding back unloading serious ttatt on my family.
i put a whole bunch of scriptures where the wonderful yahweh committed infanticide.
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freemindfade
Pretty sure I have been voted off the family island... well wont be getting those dumbass emails anymore.
Cappytan, I thought about also using the criss reference where Elisha called down fire and killed 51 men, later then the apostles asked jesus if he was gonna do the same, he basically rebuked them and told them they didn't know what they were talking about. In other words, which religious stance do you choose? the blood thirsty one, or jesus? So much harmony in the bible no?
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Is there anything about the JW's you still like?
by donny insome jw's on various postingshave asked me was there anything about the jw's i still agree with.
of course there are some things i agree with and some i partially do.
1. political involvement - while i do not agree with totally avoiding anything associated with politics, i agree that many of todays churches are way too involved in trying to sway their constituents beliefs.
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freemindfade
Not a damn thing. Their are some good people in, there's a lot of bad people too. But it's the same outside. There are good and bad people. Religion is the only thing that makes "good" people do bad things. -
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Doh! wife is about to hear the trololol song
by freemindfade indoh!
here i sit on my laptop on this site, while the wife is watching dubtv over there, she is watching the feb one with trololololy song at the end... i am trying to hold back my laughter because i know it is coming soon!
how will she react???
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freemindfade
I foresee a Pixir style Toy Story like production
The cart as the main protagonist
You have the ipad
Old grandaddy phonograph
Sparlock will be the bad guy
....good lord...
lol
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Why I became agnostic after leaving the Watchtower
by donny inone of many things that led me to agnosticism after leaving the jw's was the cognitive dissonance i encountered with those in the mainstream churches, especially the really conservative ones.
these types would scream out in protest (rightly so) on all of the current atrocities going on in the world regarding islam and its radical extremists, but then justify the savage murders and slaughter perpetuated by israel in the old testament.. often i would take these passages and replace the names and places of these scriptures with current ones.
for example 1 samuel 15:3 reads "now go, attack the amalekites and totally destroy all that belongs to them.
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freemindfade
You and I are in full agreement about the OT and religious atrocities, I even scolded my witness family last night for lusting after this blood bath they call Armageddon and said that the line between ISIS and them is very very thin, the old testament is full of righteous genocide, read many of the accounts the Israelites were the ISIS of the bronze age. Read the account when moses came down and they were worshipping the calf, its despicable. The leviites went and hacked up thousands of their brothers, sister, children, friends, then given "A blessing" from god. Sick -
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Had a major blow out
by freemindfade inmy mom was emailing a group thread of rhetoric about isis and armageddon, and i finally got sick of it and said some pretty intense harsh things about ideals, and wishing for armageddon.
then it went back and forth like some debate, all the while i am holding back unloading serious ttatt on my family.
i put a whole bunch of scriptures where the wonderful yahweh committed infanticide.
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freemindfade
Some of highlights from the infanticide response...
You didn't mention all the children who died in the flood? And why stop with the "Old Testament"? What about those in Jerusalem... who ate their children? Why didn't God save the children?
In all the examples you gave, what kind of people did this happen to? Those in opposition to Jehovah. They had done things so detestable that Jehovah was going to bring them to an account. Them and their offspring.
Is there something you have seen in the scriptures to indicate that Jehovah has at anytime bypassed inherited death and granted anyone, children included, a RIGHT to life?
People who feel sorry because they are CHILDREN, have a distorted view that because they are children they have some RIGHT to life, that a child's life should somehow be more worthy in Jehovah's eyes than that of an adult?
Jehovah is gracious, merciful, slow to anger... But he does not let off from punishment, swayed by sentiment. To him, the giver of life, a life is a life, be it one day old or 100 years old, it makes no difference. Not a one of us can claim a RIGHT to live... it is a gift.
If parents were warned of a tidal wave, and they didn't get their children to higher ground and they died, who then, would YOU blame for their death?
Why didn't Jehovah make a provision on the Ark for an orphanage to save all the children, along with the animals? There is no provision to my knowledge for orphanages in the new world for all the children who's wicked parents didn't do what they should have to save them.
I love people and their children just as Jehovah does. That is why I will spend my few little dollars, my precious little time, my poor health, and advancing age to warn and help educate everyone I can, while Jehovah is patient with them because he does not WANT anyone to die.
Still turns my stomach to read this, responded and added a link to the daily news article about the caleb and sofia video