Some of them, if not all of them must know. Based on what I have read in the Ray Franz books, some had feelings towards Ray but looked the other way. Ray himself could no longer go on knowing what he had witnessed in those meetings. He had a conscience. To me it seems as if they have to much to lose to admit its a lie. Ray lost everything big time. Those of us who see the light and had the guts to leave have lost plenty as well. I think its all a matter of conscience in the end. How STRONG are you?????? This is the very difficult question all have to face.
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Do The WTB&TS Really Believe They Have Truth?
by prophecor inor are they just stringing the rank and file along, getting every ounce of work out of thier constituents, long enough to pull the next rabbit out of the hat?
those at the top, don't they see where they've made mistakes?
how can they continue in good conscience before the god they profess to serve?
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Just want to gain insight on the overall attitude of most on here.
by stillAwitness ini am on here a lot.
leafing through posts, taking the time out to read individuals' profiles, their topics.
i like to gain insight, get perspective on what it is like to be "on the other side" i guess you can say.
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Hi Stilla, To answer your 1st question: Yes the NT starts at Matthew. 2nd : There is much in scripture that is both symbolic and figurative. In Isaiah chapter 11 it talks about Christs kindom in the earlier verses. I believe vs 6-8 refer to the peace that will abound in that kingdom. The different personalities lionlike, lamblike, bearlike, wolf etc. will all get along. Verse 9 shows this: "They will do no harm in all my holy mountain, the land being filled with the knowledge of the Lord". My opinion is that this scripture is figurative.
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Just want to gain insight on the overall attitude of most on here.
by stillAwitness ini am on here a lot.
leafing through posts, taking the time out to read individuals' profiles, their topics.
i like to gain insight, get perspective on what it is like to be "on the other side" i guess you can say.
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IronClaw
Stilla, you replied to Low-key on the scripture in Isaiah about the lion eating straw. My response to the WTS would be this. They don't believe in evolution right? That means when God created the animals none of them evolved right? Ok, then logic would dictate that lions were created with teeth meant for ripping flesh and not eating grass. I suppose in the paradise the WTS would say that Great White Sharks will be eating seaweed.
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What's the very next event the JW's are waiting for?
by JH in.
i'm just wondering what next event the jw's are waiting for, or do they know?.
i mean, god can't keep them in the dark, can he?
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Without date setting, there is no fear. No fear = No interest. No interest = No increase. No increase = Less JDubs. Hallalujah!!! Didn't Jesus say that he didn't even know the time. Not to set dates?????? Oh thats right I forgot, the JDubs dont do Bible study, just book studies.
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Kingdom Ministry issues
by kristyann inokay, i am not sure about this, even though it's probably pretty obvious to everyone, but what exactly is the kingdom ministry magazine?
it's something that is available only to active jws, right?
i know that they don't go around handing it out like they do with the watchtower and awake!
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Kristyann, any particular issue's you need. I have plenty of older issue's on hand. PM me, I can scan them for you.
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Where are all you disco dancers?
by IronClaw indoes anybody else out there in apostaland like the 70's music, esspecially the disco era?
i used to be a dj back in the day.
i worked at a rollerskating rink when disco was king and did private gigs as well.
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Unbeliever, Disco may be dead, but all things live on in Gods mind according to the WTS. Maybe he will ressurect it. That would really be paradise.
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Where are all you disco dancers?
by IronClaw indoes anybody else out there in apostaland like the 70's music, esspecially the disco era?
i used to be a dj back in the day.
i worked at a rollerskating rink when disco was king and did private gigs as well.
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You bet ABBA was. They were one of the most requested groups. Cant tell you how many times I played Dancing Queen. Loved the group. Funny gay men used to request that song more than the women I think.
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What helped you the most to beat the WTS negative influences?
by greendawn inwhat was it that helped you the most to shake off the jw spell after you left and then get on in life, unhindered by their negative influences?
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Gee Frannie, where were you when I was sneaking off to the strip joints in the late 70's early 80's when I used to be a DJ. Always a day late and a dollar short. Guess I would have been a day late and few dollars had you been there.LOL
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What helped you the most to beat the WTS negative influences?
by greendawn inwhat was it that helped you the most to shake off the jw spell after you left and then get on in life, unhindered by their negative influences?
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IronClaw
Im on my way out, still having to deal emotionally with some issues. Can't wait till its all over.( I mean when I finally get the boot or quit on my own. ) I'll take a raincheck
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Mark Furhman/Barbara Anderson Radio Interview on Real Audio
by Dogpatch inthanks to danny haszard you can listen to the 75 minutes of interview with barbara anderson and linda john by the famous mark furhman from his mark furhman radio show (in four parts) from this link:.
http://www.dannyhaszard.com/cultvideos.htm#barb.
just click on one of the four parts to listen to it.
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Thanks Randy. Looking forward to listening.