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  Greeting A New Neighbor

  by drahcir yarrum in

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  here's the scenario and i need advise on how to handle this.

  .. i found out this afternoon that a former jw and obvious apostate has moved in two houses down from me.

  while i didn't know he or his wife when i was a jw, another friend of mine advised me of their arrival in the neighborhood.. should i:.

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  crawdad2

  dt8a,

  about the house you just described,........that place sounds like a blast....
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  Getting off on their power trip

  by SpiceItUp in

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  2. friends

  i think in a way the wt along with the elders are molesters themselves.

  think of the simularities.

  first...this is the definition, courtesy of webster, of molest - "to bother, annoy, or persecute: to accost sexually".

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  did i hear you say ACCESSORY TO THE CRIME?

  hmmm, .........

  dear gov body,,,,,,, are you an ACCESSORY TO THE CRIME???

  i mean, you just said you ~ADVISE ELDERS~.... when they have an accusation of pedophile.

  so, ....... they are instructed to call you on the phone, right?
  and then you give them ADVICE, right........ just like the ADVICE bill bowen got "documented on tape", right?
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  WTS says two witnesses requirement "not tr...

  by Had Enough in

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  2. friends

  i haven't noticed this point posted anywhere yet so i apologize if i missed it and have posted it again.. this is posted on the official jw media website at http://www.jw-media.org/releases/default.htm?content=/vnr/2122827332/819163.pdf.

  brumley,an official "general councel for jws has stated outright that the two-witness policy is "simply not true".

  (i've bolded certain points below except for the title).

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  crawdad2

  hi brumley! and gov body

  yes, the elders take action,......they listen to the case, and then they hand the little 5 yr old back to the abusing parent.

  "the elders are 'vitally concerned' with the welfare of the cong"??... why then do they let the legal dept of the gov body take over? and tell them to hush it all up?........ do they really love god, or the gov body?

  the elders work hard to see those who practice such things are not part of the org????????????
  why then do elders disfellowship victims, and harbor pedophiles, like on dateline?
  are you saying dateline was a fake?.... do your elders submit, when you tell them to hand the 5 yr old child back to the abusing parent?........ yes they do, they love the gov body!!!.... that's right!!!... they are instucted to call you, and get advise, like you just said,,,,,,,,, you did say ADVICE?!!!!......DIDN'T YOU???????

  oh yes, the steps,,,,,,, haha, the steps of calling you, and getting your ADVICE.
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  This Board and JWs

  by comforter in

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  2. friends

  at one time, this board seemed to be fair.

  but i no longer think that it is, to jws, at least.

  ex-jws here can cuss, insult, say fu to everybody they don't like, and call jws pedophiles.

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  crawdad2

  hi comforter,

  we can call jws "pedophiles"?????.....///////.... yes we sure can!!! .... to bad the pedophiles in your congregation aren't called pedophiles!!!!
  instead some of them are called "elders"........ cause if jws called them what they really are, they would get disfellowshipped.

  i think you should call a pedophile a pedophile, not an elder.
  it would sure help alot of little 5 yr old girls, whos lives are being ruined.

  i know, i know, it's not your fault, the gov body won't let you call them pedophiles.
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  Classes, Just for Men

  by Celia in

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  2. friends

  classes for men at our local adult education center.. sign up by june 1, 2002. note: due to the complexity and difficulty level of their contents, each course will .

  accept a maximum of eight (8) participants each.. topic 1 - how to fill up the ice cube trays.

  step by step, with slide presentation.. topic 2 - the toilet paper roll: does it grow on the holder?

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  crawdad2

  damn, it's already june 2!
  i'm a day to late to sign up....... oh well, just my luck!
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  Other thoughts: the two witnesses idea

  by larc in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  whether the two witnesses to two separate incidences is new or old, it is still a very stupid policy.

  let us suppose a child was raped and their parents took the matter to police.

  further suppose that the police said, that they couldn't investigate because there had not been any other complaints against the rapist.

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  crawdad2

  they can interpret the two witness scripture any way they want to, just look at what they did to "generation".

  the reason they interpret it as they do, is because it is an "excuse" to keep the cases out of court, and away from the media.

  it's the media that that can make people aware that they are not a clean organization, not god's organization.
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  Will *YOU* take the bait?

  by LDH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for many of us, the internet is old news.

  when i first met my husband in 1995, we were using the internet for his job search.a friend racked up $494 in monthly charges out of my checking account back in the days before aol was unlimited.

  (yes, they paid me back) strange, but true.. since that time, i have seen many things.

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  crawdad2

  hi fat cat,

  hidden adgenda?......hmmmm..........ya... but only to accomplish their goal of looking like they are god's organization.

  become suspicious without paranoia?....... lets see, for alot of non members, it was after the date line show.

  for the ex jws, ....... like me, //// i saw enough, first hand, to know that the gov body is devious....... and they always, ALWAYS, cover their tracks....... i've even heard about elders sitting outside of an exmembers house, in a car, video taping them.
  but the exmember video taped them, sitting in a car, hahahaha,,,,,,, and they were arrested.
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  PRECIOUS THE CAT

  by crawdad2 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my jw neighbors were just young, 18...... when they got married.. they had cats and dogs.... soon the pressures of life, and being a jw took effect, and they seperated,,,,,,,,,, the girl left precious, her cat behind.......it was a better place for her here.. precious was heatbroken...... she was never the same.. it's been around ten years now, ...... and in the last few years, my nieghbor didn't have much time for precious anymore.. so she started hanging around me, over here most of the time.. i buried her just now,...... in my backyard, where she laid down and died.. i hate death,...... it brings back memories of what 2 young beautiful people wanted....... love happiness......pets.. goodbye precious......... i learned alot from you..... i wish i would have given you more love.

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  crawdad2

  my jw neighbors were just young, 18...... when they got married.
  they had cats and dogs...

  soon the pressures of life, and being a jw took effect, and they seperated,,,,,,,,,, the girl left precious, her cat behind.......it was a better place for her here.

  precious was heatbroken...... she was never the same.

  it's been around ten years now, ...... and in the last few years, my nieghbor didn't have much time for precious anymore.
  so she started hanging around me, over here most of the time.

  i buried her just now,...... in my backyard, where she laid down and died.

  i hate death,...... it brings back memories of what 2 young beautiful people wanted....... love happiness......pets.

  goodbye precious......... i learned alot from you..... i wish i would have given you more love.
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  Two Witnesses to WHAT !!!

  by jst2laws in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i have asked this question on another thread but want to bring it to everyone's attention.

  the wt society is trying to make it look as if they have always handled molestation aggressively and that very little change has been required, only 'strengthening' their policy over the years.

  two witnesses to separate incidents of the same kind of wrongdoing.

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  crawdad2

  the sweeping of it under the rug, doesn't iniciate with the elders,..... they are "advised" from the gov body to do it.
  an inexperienced elder would likely call the police.
  but their "rule" of "report all cases to the headquarters"......is what keeps the gov body on top of it all,,,,,,,,,, everytime a little girls is molested, because of written instructions from the gov body, the elders call headquarters........and the gov body invisibly take over...... instucting it all to be swept under the carpet for fear the media will get a hold of it.

  then the little girl is handed back over to the molester parent.
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  Will *YOU* take the bait?

  by LDH in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  for many of us, the internet is old news.

  when i first met my husband in 1995, we were using the internet for his job search.a friend racked up $494 in monthly charges out of my checking account back in the days before aol was unlimited.

  (yes, they paid me back) strange, but true.. since that time, i have seen many things.

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  crawdad2

  hi lisa, i agree!
  and furthermore......... the gov body moniters boards like this.... it helps them prepare the articles that counteract the arguments that exmembers are using against them.

  ******* they would like to know about the really bad cases of elder abuse and rape and molestation,,,,,,,, so they can contact the elders involved and help them destroy the evidence.

  they don't want to hear about it in court, when it's to late to destroy the evidence in the case.

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