nazi ss chief himmler was an admirer of the jehovah's witnesses:.
according to rudolf hoess, commandant of auschwitz, ss chief heinrich himmler often used the 'fanatical faith" of jehovah's witnesses as an example to his own ss troops.
* described negroes as degenerate, degraded, servile {wt jul 15 1902 p215}.
I'm totaly lost here ... Most of this stuff I allready knew from my own research. What I'm lost about here what Jim and focus are disagreeing about. All I see is a bunch of inuendo and veiled statements. Will somone please clue me in???? Maybe I just need more coffee.
Anton
this is my first post.
please forgive its length, its bad timing, its preachiness, its prejudices, etc.
it's just one more opinion that i feel obligated to add.
Messenger, as far as satire goes, I think that was pretty weak. I do believe most 14 year olds could do better. Just my opinion.
Anton
i was just reading an article in the seattle times about a new methadone clinic that will be set up lynnwood, washington.
lynnwood is quite literally, across the street from me and most of my shopping/errands are done there.
this is the first i have heard of it and i am surprised it hasn't been more newsworthy than an article in the wednesday edition of the seattle times.
Princess said:
I don't see it as a disease
I guess that's a matter of perception Princess. If we treated these sorts of things as a medical issue rather than a moral one, we wouldn't even be having this dicussion. I have a 14 year old son, and an 8 year old daughter. My 14 year old son lives with me, and we live around the corner from a halfway house for recovering drug addicts. I don't have a problem with it. I'm just glad these folks are getting help.
Just my opinion for what it's worth.
Anton
...when i read some of the posts in this forum these days.
the founding fathers had it right when.
they setup an electoral college and opted for a republic.
I find it fascinating that people will defend a book created by the Roman government specifically to supress free thought and free spirituality amongst the Europeans they sought to assimilate. The God of the Bible is not my God, for I refuse to worship the creations of man. Christianity and the Bible have come between too many people and their God.
Anton
like carl olof jonsson, this is the first time i have ever written to this forum.
i have decided to do so, however, because i am saddened at what bill bowen has chosen to do in reference to ray franz.
let me say that i given bill full marks for publicizing an issue child abuse and the watchtower cover up of it and for taking a stand that has cost him a great deal personally.
I have made it a point to stay completely out of this debate, but I wanted make a quick post to avoid confusion. I noticed there is a new poster by the name of Anton. As this is my real name and I sign all of my posts with it, I just wanted to clarify that we are not the same person.
Anton
since i have stopped attending the meetings, i have had a loss of faith in god.
i consider myself an agnostic teetering on being a full blown atheist.
while in school this last semester i have been taking courses that emphasize evolution.
StinkyPantz,
I posted this in another tread and thought it might be usefull here.
This is just my opinion of course, but I feel that religion is just man's interpretation of the divine. I think it is each individuals responsibility to develop a relationship with his or her creator. Reading the writings of others and their thoughts can be quite valuable, but adopting rigid dogma will remove you from your spiritual potential. It is my belief that that all the holy books written throughout history have been the creation of men who have had a political agendas. As far as I can tell, even the Bible was merely the way of the Holy Roman Empire to subjugate the savage barbarian hordes of Europe with the fear of everlasting torment if they disobeyed the law they had created. This law was encapsulated within the New Testament or Greek Scriptures. These are just my thought, and are as likely to be wrong as anyone else's.Anton
what is all the fuss about?
when i was still assimilated (i.e.
still in the borg, but wanting out every second of that time), there was so much emphasis put on microphone handling that it was almost unreal.
I always thought Microphone handeling was a euphamism for masturbation ... but then I have a dirty mind
Anton
Edited by - coolbreeze on 22 October 2002 1:12:27
There is allready a thread on this subject.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=39078&site=3
Anton
ive basically kept this under wraps in so far as this board is concerned, but ive decided to tell about it because, frankly, im under stress at the moment,am posting (when i post at all) a bit strangely and i wish to explain why im hardly posting, nor am i hardly responding to emails or chat requests from my friends here.
i apologize for the latter.
in a nutshell, my wife is sick, shes been sick a year now and the situation is getting worse.
I'd like to reach out with sympathy, but after reading about 250 posts at random of RF's I'm having doubts about the level of sincerity in them. RF if what you say is true my heart goes out to you, if on the other hand what Farkel is implying is true, then not only do I not have any sympathy, but resent the attempted emotional manipulation.
Anton
very urgent please help.
i am looking for scriptures that refer to the correct way of worship (and i am sure it will not include reference to watchtower material).. i am currently studying the watchtower with some jw's in our area, but have serious reservations about their lack of communal worship that does not include complete readings from the bible.
reading a chapter and then using the watchtower to back it up instead of using the bible to backup the teachings of the watchtower).. the watchtower is not divinely inspired so how on earth am i going to get anything of value out of it.
I feel that I have run out of options. I need to find a religion that I am comfortable with and therefore need to pick each one apart.
This is just my opinion of course, but I feel that religion is just man's interpretation of the divine. I think it is each individuals responsibility to develop a relationship with his or her creator. Reading the writings of others and their thoughts can be quite valuable, but adopting rigid dogma will remove you from your spiritual potential. It is my belief that that all the holy books written throughout history have been the creation of men who have had a political agendas. As far as I can tell, even the Bible was merely the way of the Holy Roman Empire to subjugate the savage barbarian hordes of Europe with the fear of everlasting torment if they disobeyed the law they had created. This law was encapsulated within the New Testament or Greek Scriptures. These are just my thought, and are as likely to be wrong as anyone else's.
Anton
