brooke I can so go along with what you are saying....sometimes I question why I can't just cut say "F you all, take me or leave me the way I am now!~" I don't know though, it's usually not that simple.
I think in so many ways you can't just make a quick chop and be done because you have to replace the things/beliefs/people you are losing with NEW ones, and that takes time to do. It's probably a subconscience survival tactic we have.
good thread BTW - not to say I don't like your other threads.......(wink)
hey, where's that brother of yours? You came and teased us with him, and now he's nowhere to be found....... :(
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Can you let go?
by whyamihere inas i was sitting in a restaurant with my friend briana(ex-jw), we started talking about how we see other ex-jw's inability to let go.
i know many have suffered and endured horrific events or trials as jw's, which i assume it would be hard to let go.
though, do we really have the ability to let go lead a normal life with not thinking twice or having fear in our actions?.
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Be Honest: Did You ACTUALLY Report Accurate Field Service Time?
by minimus ini bet most people did not.
i think nearly everyone counted time spent on breaks.
or sitting in the car for an hour and a half while the elders did a "shepherding" call.
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oh yeah. I always tacked on some hours. funny, I used to feel guilty about that, but then again, I used to feel guilty about a lot of things....
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Went to a witness party....oh, excuse me, "gathering" over the weekend.....
by enlightenedcynic inthe mrs. and i were invited to a "gathering" this weekend.
was just supposed to be some friends getting together for some food and fellowship.
when we arrived, there were a bunch of jw's in the back yard(50 to 100) and the music was pumping loud(not that i minded{smile}).
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ahhh yes. the good old days.
I'll tell ya, since I left the dubs I can't find one good party to attend anymore. Now we get invited over people's houses and there is no cursing, booze, flirting with others mates, etc. It's so WHOLESOME! WEIRD!
LOL! but I'm totally serious here....
it was a real shocker for me at how *worldly* people really act.
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Scuba Diving - advice please.
by nicolaou ini have my final dives this weekend to qualify as an open water scuba diver.
i have to admit i'm nervous so if anyone here has passed can you let me know what to expect?.
all tips would be appreciated.. nic'
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hey NIC -
I remember my open dive. My instructor was a complete yo-yo. He strapped my tank on wrong so I couldn't go underwater. Then he just yelled at how I should submerge. It finally took my friend and I to figure out it was on wrong, swim back to the boat, get it straight and then I rejoined. Not a good way to start the dive.....
I was nervous as hell but I got through it. I too, WANTED to panic when you take your mask off and have to put it back on underwater. I found closing my eyes, and taking some nice deep breaths helped, and then slowly remove your mask at your pace. Then I kept my eyes closed so I could concentrate and took some breaths through my regulator and then replaced and cleared my mask fine.
After we were done with all the *test* stuff we got to dive and just have fun.....THAT WAS AWESOME! Saw eels, sharks, sea turtles, tons of fish.....it was great.
you'll do fine, just relax and breath. You have to fight your own brain telling you " YOU IDIOT, YOU CAN'T BREATHE UNDERWATER!!!!!" LOL!
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17 Days: One Final Adventure
by Merry Magdalene ini once posted here a copy of my empassioned plea to the watchtower society--i want my mother back.
well, i just wanted to let all of you know that i got her back for a whole 17 days, and we had one final adventure together before she died, and there wasn't a damned thing they could do about it.. my mother is, was, a long-term loyal jw and i was her disfellowshipped daughter.
i believe she was in an almost constant state of conflict over me because her very strong maternal instincts demanded she behave openly and lovingly toward me, while her wts-trained conscience demanded the opposite.
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******Well, I just wanted to let all of you know that I got her back for a whole 17 days, and we had one final adventure together before she died, and there wasn't a damned thing They could do about it.******
you should read this eulogy out loud for your mother....even if it's not in front of people....
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Breaking up with spouse, why?
by greendawn infor those that broke up with a boy/girlfriend or a spouse, how do you know that you made the right decision?
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Show us your picture
by Honesty in.
that is, if you are able to without the prospect of facing a three-man kangaroo court appointed by jerhover to keep the congregation clean from apostate influences.. i'll go first: .
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Calliope -
are you offering a prayer before dinner?? LOL!!
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How many ex-jws move out of town to start over?
by rebel8 ini was wondering how common it is for ex-jws to relocate after leaving the borg in order to escape the bad memories of being in a cult, or to break contact with cult members.. i have wanted to move far away for as long as i can remember--even as a kid--for this purpose.
various life circumstances have delayed that--long story--but mr. rebel8 and i are thinking of moving within the next few years.
i am the one who's most interested in moving to a completely different type of place--different culture, different climate, different everything!
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we moved and it was very good for us.
moving has it's own set of stresses so I"m not saying it's the ONLY way to go when you exit.
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WT desparate: Aug 15 WT- In Our Next Issue: When A Loved One Leaves Jehovah
by truthseeker inno, i don't have this article yet, it will appear in the sep 1, 2006 wt.
it may even be a wt study article.. in the august 15 watchtower, the box "in our next issue" has three forthcoming articles, and one of them is "when a loved one leaves jehovah".
of interest, it's not when a loved one leaves the society, it's jehovah.. will keep you posted.
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WOW! thanks for posting this.....
reading that made me feel sick....literally.
That was so laced with FEAR and GUILT......BARF!
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DC Drama: Mosaic Law == Being a Witness
by under_believer inokay, so i want to talk this one over with my wife, but i need to kick the idea around here a little bit first.
i apologize if this has already been covered.
at the district convention this year, they did a bit about how jeroboam didn't want the 10-tribe kingdom going down to jerusalem, so he tried to set up calf worship and his own set of festivals, etc.
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Ya' know UB - this may be a good point to discuss with your wife.
For one - I would get another translation to read from besides the NWT. (even if it's just for you to read from) Then start reading the gospels. I couldn't believe how much I saw the hypocrisy of the society when I started reading the gospels with a more open mind. Jesus was the ULTIMATE apostate against the religious order of his day. You may be able to make some parallels with this.
One thing that really got to me in the beginning was my husband let me chew on the concept of *GRACE* and why the NWT doesn't have that word in it.
BIG EYE OPENER for me.