and we figured there was no reason to inform congregations as they'd see the news reports and we felt the elders didn't need to hear about it.
They have got to be kidding.
Isaac
well - i had been wanting to do this for a long time , to question a legal department representative at bethel about the child abuse settlements and jw child abuse, since last year when the news came out about it.
especially since my dad , an elder for years was never aware of it and has on his own taken steps to see that families with children are informed if a former pedophile is in their congregation.
i was curious as to what the current views and policies in place are .
and we figured there was no reason to inform congregations as they'd see the news reports and we felt the elders didn't need to hear about it.
They have got to be kidding.
Isaac
i was watching a special on the atacama desert in south america and they were showing huge sections of the desert that were bands of gypsum rock.
it breaks down almost immediately with just the tiniest bit of water.
they estimate it's age at 140 million years... so no water for at least a few million years!.
The GB has so much riding on Noah. He was a "preacher of righteousness", so dubs should be. Jesus mentioned that the last days would be like the days of Noah. No Noah, then what about their end times cultish prophecies. They are probably married to the flood story, no matter how stupid it may be.
Isaac
this was written in the topic...."blood lawsuit goes forward against the org.
conference call sat.
march 28".
What WAS he doing up there?????
Isaac
this was written in the topic...."blood lawsuit goes forward against the org.
conference call sat.
march 28".
There is no way that will work and for one very simple reason. Those who even know about this are already "weak in the truth" and definitely in the minority. Most JW's don't even know about this plan. How could they even consider doing it so as to initiate a mass exodus? Not that most JW's would even consider such a thing. They are subjects of cult mind control. Why would they go against their religion?
Isaac
ok ,so if new annointed ones can still come about , who here has ever heard of any annointed ones in their congregation or surrounding congregations getting disfellowshipped or simply fading out of the organization.
thus allowing some new annointed one to take their place?.
and if someone says "hey i am annointed" do they have to check with bethal who then checks a list or something to see if there is a annointed one somewhere in the world who just got d'fd?.
I've known several, even served on the committee of one. It's more common than the GB would ever want to admit.
Isaac
i was disappointed in this book, i kept reading it hoping it would get better.
i guess i got spoiled by this forum.
i have found better writings and stories here and a heck of a lot more humor.
I found it good as well. My way of thinking when I was a JW in some ways closely tracked hers. So it was helpful in processing some of the thoughts and feelings of those days in my own mind. The dissonance produced by WT's way of thinking can be devastating to anyone with any kind of perfectionistic tendencies or OCD. That may be what affected the author.
Isaac
hi all, i've been reading here for awhile and made a few posts before realizing i should probably introduce myself.
it's so refreshing to read ppl's thoughts on these topics, which run deeply personal, and i've never been able to express myself freely, so thanks for such a great forum.. i was born and raised a dub, by my "spiritually single" mother (dad was an unbeliever..still is) me and my 3 other siblings all fell away before getting baptised, other than my older sis, who was df'd at 16. unfortunatley in my early 20's a sister "took an interest in me and we had a bible study for 2 years before getting baptized at 24.
(what a regret) since then i floundered, flopped, got df'd a year later for dum, dum, dum..."fornication and then reinstated 9 months later.
Welcome.
Isaac
first of all, if anyone is offended by the photos, then i will ask this topic to be removed.
i am posting the photos because i get sad sometimes about people being forgotten who tried so hard, even though they were wrong.
the cemetery is pretty easy to find, if you have any interest in finding it.
I remember being taken to see Knorr's grave with its tiny stone. Even then I thought it was a sorry way to show respect for his life's work
Excellent point. Of course in dubland, one is not supposed to glorify the individual. All glory must go to Jehovah. Don't eulogize the dead they say. It's sad because wouldn't glorifying the person also give glory to their Creator?
Isaac
first of all, if anyone is offended by the photos, then i will ask this topic to be removed.
i am posting the photos because i get sad sometimes about people being forgotten who tried so hard, even though they were wrong.
the cemetery is pretty easy to find, if you have any interest in finding it.
For all the visits I've paid to the Farm, I've never been to the "Launching Pad". I'm kind of amazed at Max and Sam Friend, Knorr, Swingle and Co. Amazing that they had no family to care for their remains. Or maybe they just felt that WT was their life, better to be interred there as well. Anyway, it's kind of sad, particularly Maxwell Friend. I liked him.
Isaac
i have been reading this site for a while now but have never posted.
i am an ex-pioneer, who left the organization 15 years ago.
i served as a need-greater in a foreign country and when i came back i walked away.
Dying to live. Now that's a fitting description of JW's. Welcome RaraAvis.
Isaac