some scans have been made regarding blood and birthdays in the new book that was released at this year s conventions.
as could be seen from the index of the book, there is an appendix on the topic of disfellowshipping.
this as a topic that definitely concerns quite a few of this board.
Here are scans from pages 207-209 of the "Keep Yourself In God's Love" release.
I don'k know how to imbed images, so click on the two links below to see those pages.
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http://i193.photobucket.com/albums/z248/rrubio8639/lv_208.jpg
reading the witchtower?.
dancing?.
just chilling?.
I doubt they will really start emphasize going out in field service for the "free" Tuesday evening -- except maybe for the pioneers.
They will stick with the extra personal studying.
I mean it is a Tuesday night, for most people that's a workday. To be honest I will probably end up watching more TV.
NestleBoy
there was also a district convention in south florida this past weekend.
at the christian convention center in w. palm beach.
i had the pleasure of having to go all three days -- yes it was boring.
Juntion-Guy said:
Nestleboy, I have a quick question--you mentioned this convention was held at the christian convention center. Is that the actual name of it? and is it owned by the JW's?
Yes, that's the actual name of it "Christian Convention Center of Jehovah's Winesses". It is owned by the JW's. They purchased it from the city of W Pal Beach about 5 or 10 years ago. I'm not sure exactly when. It used to be auditorium, then they renovated it.
there was also a district convention in south florida this past weekend.
at the christian convention center in w. palm beach.
i had the pleasure of having to go all three days -- yes it was boring.
There was also a District Convention in south Florida this past weekend. At the Christian Convention Center in W. Palm Beach. I had the “pleasure” of having to go all three days -- yes it was boring. I tried to take notes on all talks -- couldn’t, way too boring. I kept nodding off. [[my comments]]
Here are the notes that I got from the Saturday afternoon Symposium “Do Not Follow…
“Do Not Follow After the Crowd”
-- Matt 7:13,14“Do Not Follow Your Hearts and Your Eyes”
[[ bottom line on this section: Another warning on the latest styles of clothing & materialism ]]“Do Not Follow Unrealities”
Definition -- A lack of substance. They may promise great things but deliver very little.“Do Not Follow False Teachers”[[ this sparked my interest ]]
“False Teachers are like dry wells; they will bring us utter disappointment. Who are these false teacher today? They are not the ones interested in just leaving. Where do they come from? From among the congregation -- Apostates. What do they want? They want to take others with them.” Acts 20:29,30
“How do they operate? They prey on trusting brothers; try to deceive us. They try to twist the Scriptures.” 2 Pet 2:3 “They will exploit and use counterfeit words”
“We avoid them by (1) not letting them into our home (2) not reading their literature (3) turning off the TV if we happen to see them there, and (4) do not examine their websites.” [[ok, I failed on that last one J]] “We love the congregation. The Faithful Slaves is following the congregation -- they provide us with refreshing waters of truth.”
“Do Not Follow False Stories”
Bottom line on this section: What is it today? (1) the view that right or wrong is determined by how we feel. This is promoted by the media & the world (2) the belief that God will NOT intervene in the world’s affairs. Will give us a “live for today attitude.” (3) to believe all stories & news exerts from e-mails. Often contain confidential matters, exaggerated Bethel accounts & disaster reports. [[ drats, where else are we supposed to get this info from? The Society takes months or years to tell us things. And of course it is all the good reports, filtered through the GB ]]“Do Not Follow Satan”
Satan mislead Adam & Eve. 1 Tim 5:11-15
have you the covers please ???????
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I think what ALEX_2003 was talking about is a scan of any new releases at the “Follow the Christ!“ 2007 District Convention. As of Friday nothing... Most new releases, if any, are on Saturday.
Unfortunately, I had the ’privilege’ of going to the first day of the convention earlier this afternoon. (I was assigned the May 25 th - 27 th dates). It was really kinda boring. I was going to update everyone as to any new special insights at the Convention… but nothing. The same thing that’s been mentioned over and over again over the years.
For those of you that have to attend… the ‘audio drama’ of the “God’s Word Is Alive and Exerts Power“ is really cheesy -- with all that drama-orchestra music leading into all the Bible reading re-enactments of the two chapters. Oh, and all that over-the-top voice actors.
The thing that got me was the commentary questions for the parents/children/publishers that followed each section of the audio drama. I know they mean well, but… eeeek. It’s all those hard-driving, guilt-heavy, leaning questions you get from the Watchtower study articles. Kinda like spoon feeding the way a Christian should think and reason on the matter. (Would you expect any different?) You’ll know what I mean if you hear it.
I know it's no different from all the other talks... but just have someone read the Bible in a dignified manner.
i was wondering if there are any current regular posters here that are still active , but are mentally inactive and don't believe all the bull anymore, and are just going through the motions to keep their life with friends and family together.. i realize this might be a posting that will probably get 0 replies, but.......
this week at the study of the revelation book there was a paragraph that said that god's kingdom would soon usher in a. paradise earth.
i realized that this book was printed 19 years ago.
my wife excitedly that i am taking her to europe soon would she be happy if i waited 3 years?
Why do you always jump to the conclusion that there is some ulterior motive for saying the end is soon? They are simply following the example of the early Christians. Christians have always believed the Master was coming soon. And there are even suggestions that it may seem that Jesus is taking to long to return.
Those who don't believe it is coming soon - don't really believe it.
A thought just came to mind... How many would keep active in the field service, and regularly attending all the meetigs if they dropped the "soon" nonsense. As was said earlier in this thread, "The sense of urgency is a tool used to keep members knocking on doors and hyped emotionally so that they will not take the time to look at what they have been told."
Sure, it's meant to keep the publishers active, but I bet a great majority of JW's would take things allot easier, and not try so hard -- maybe even not going to all the meetings -- if they stop using "soon". Here's a novel concept: Try using love for Jesus and God as a basis for faith & activity. This is the proper motivation. But as everyone here knows, too much emphasis on the "the end is coming soon" for the past 100+ years will make one question this organization.
the whole thing seems wrong.
ok not withstanding a long heated disfellowshipping thread, how can they say you are no longer a jw?.
jehovah always sees you as a witness of his, maybe a bad witness, or a sinful one, but one nonetheless.. was david not a servant of jehovahs when he made mistakes, or peter when he coward?
i often wondered this myself a lot growing up, and i must know.... if there was no paradise hope, no promise of living forever or having your dead loved ones resurrected....would you still serve your god and follow the organization?
would you have ever began studying with the witnesses for that matter or stayed in the ''truth'' if you were raised in it?.
because isn't that the golden ticket that jw's wave in front of their studies or interested ones?
You make some good points kittyeatzdub
I'm kinda in this situation in my life now. This possibility of no paradise hope or not seeing our love ones resurrected has been on my mind for awhile... maybe more then a year. At lease not the way the Faithful Slave describes the earthly paradise hope.
Yes, I would still serve God and try to be a Christian. That would please the Creator and Jesus. But in NO way would I follow the organization -- that's a no brainer. I would walk away. There are so many other more socially friendly Christian faiths out there than the Witnesses.
But I still hold out some faith and hope. If there's an intelligent Creator out there must be something better.. or least something after death. I think God will reward all those following Him and Jesus' teachings honestly. Everyone of all faiths will be rewarded and not just the Witnesses. Perhaps there is a heavenly hope. (Yeah, I know that's a different point of view from someone raised in the "truth.")
NestleBoy
just wondering out there, who is still active?
makes most of the meetings, all the conventions, comments, is still active socially with the congregation,out in service, hall building etc.
just wondering, because we know who are the elders, or recently former elders and i usually seek their posts for some interesting comments... .
