We had a St. Bernard dog come out and bite a hole in the tire of the Ford Fiesta we were driving. This was before cell phones, so we had to get the householders to help us Sisters out.
They weren't pleased.
Cas
i was once threatened with a rifle.
that was scary...but hey...what didn't we suffer for the good news.
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We had a St. Bernard dog come out and bite a hole in the tire of the Ford Fiesta we were driving. This was before cell phones, so we had to get the householders to help us Sisters out.
They weren't pleased.
Cas
there's a lot.. one rule that is dumb is that a brother must wear a suit for a sunday public talk that he is giving.
any other time, the brother could wear a suit coat with a different pair of pants and not be counseled for it.. another dumb idea is that you cannot date a person unless you seriously might marry them.
if you're on a date, you were supposed to always have a chaperone and holding hands might not be allowed as well as sitting together.. what other dumb rules and ideas can you add?.
then there was the "skirt slit" spirituality indicator....
do i have to explain it to anyone here?
Nope, we had one newly interested person come to the hall with a modest slit in her skirt, the Elders had her study conductor speak with her. She NEVER returned.
Good for her
Some fire departments have flags on their uniforms. I know quite a few jw firefighters. How is that possible?
I'm not sure Blondie,
All I know is that I had a small decal on my car, and the Elders were insistant that I remove it. They told me I was promoting nationalism.
Maybe things have changed, or my "Eders" were very anal, I opt for the latter.
Cas
that it was not losing all my friends that hurt so damned bad.... it was finding out they weren't my friends that hurt so damned bad.. sometimes it still hurts so bad i want to curl fetal.. jeff.
So true Sylvia !!
I especially liked how something told in confidence would also be spread, practically before the conversation had even ended.
I think it is totally unfair to converts, like myself, who aren't given all the facts before it's too late. Only to find out later that if the "lifestyle" wasn't for them, they would be treated like lepers from so called "friends".
I had never been treated that way before in my life !! Real friends DO NOT treat people that way. There is no way on earth that shunning me, would ever make me want to associate with that group again.
It just doesn't work that way in my world, people I left behind when I became a witness were there with open arms when I returned, they were understanding and life went on.
Not so with JW's... no, it's all our "Fault".
Cas
dos anyone remember how the dubs used to try and show how spirtual they were by how much they had underlined their watchtower?.
this also happened to their bibles too, i saw one that was almost unreadable due to the mass of neon coloured highlighters and scribbles in the margin, myself i used to think "oooh they must be sooo spirtual!
" but really... how hard is it to agree with brain washing when your brain washed yourself?
i used to do my watchtower prestudy in 10 mins flat,
Me too...
I hated when certain ones would sort of wave theirs around so all could see. One older brother always held his in his hand when trying to get called on to answer, it was blinding.
Then of course, there were those that roamed around checking to see who did and who didn't.
Where is the "spirituality" in all of that ? Sadly, it was all just for "Show".
Cas
there's a lot.. one rule that is dumb is that a brother must wear a suit for a sunday public talk that he is giving.
any other time, the brother could wear a suit coat with a different pair of pants and not be counseled for it.. another dumb idea is that you cannot date a person unless you seriously might marry them.
if you're on a date, you were supposed to always have a chaperone and holding hands might not be allowed as well as sitting together.. what other dumb rules and ideas can you add?.
No national flags, or for that matter, nothing with a national flag on it was allowed, no matter how tiny it was.
(I had a decal on my car... that "Had" to be removed pronto. )
The bread and wine at the memorial is de-activated after the final prayer and it is OK for the non-annointed to eat it or drink it just to see what it tastes like.
Lol, we did this all the time afterwards, I never thought of it like that.
Cas
that it was not losing all my friends that hurt so damned bad.... it was finding out they weren't my friends that hurt so damned bad.. sometimes it still hurts so bad i want to curl fetal.. jeff.
Another thing is that they blame us for terminating the friendship.
Good point Undercover,
This is so true, and it never ceases to amaze me. My best JW friend's husband came to me shortly after my fade became really apparent, and said, "XXX is upset because she feels you left her".
I didn't "leave her", I just stopped going to the meetings... she terminated the relationship, besides shouldn't it have been that "I left Jehovah" ?
I'm sorry you are hurting AK... it's all so unfair.
Cas
11 am in the morning, a very busy road, a very busy banks' parking lot.
my mother walked down the stairs to her car and saw a masked man run around her car and come up to her.
he pointed a gun at her chest.
... Goodness !!! So glad to hear your Mom is okay, I'm sure that was very scary for you both.
You have a right to be angry !!! I can't imagine going thru something like that, I wouldn't be able to calm down for days.
I got extremely angry when she told me - not at her, but that our lives have no value to these criminals.
I can understand your feelings, we just had a little 2yr. old boy murdered in our town, two days ago. The Mother's boyfriend is in jail facing murder charges... the life of a child meant nothing to him.
((Hugs))
Cas
if so how was your experience?
did you get out much and experience the real country?
did you get to mix with all the nationalities, cultures, if so what are your thoughts?.
Hi LouBelle,
No, I have never been out of the USA... I am afraid of flying and I refuse to be shark bait, so guess I am stuck here.
I do have a globe that sits on my desk, I look at it often and sometimes think of those here on the board and their locations...
Your country sounds amazing.
Cas
greetings, fellow pc:.
i just finished defragging and feel so much zippier now.
i was getting sluggish to the point that all my insides locked up.
Hi CoCo...
I drive myself nuts, trying to keep my pc clean and tidy. I defrag on a regular basis, clean out old files and run virus scan often.
For some reason I am very obsessive about not putting too much on my hard drive, I try and keep it at the very least, 1/2 empty.
Drives my kids crazy, since I refuse to download things they are positive that I need... like the newest video and such.
Enjoy your new found "Speed"...
Cas
i guess it only took three years, but they were hell in so many ways for both of us...she was not happy and lived in denial as much as possible...i was not happy and lived in a bottle as much as possible and glad that is over for me....but it was one of the saddest things i have ever experienced in my life....as was the visit to my parents before i told her....but yes...she said she kind of expected it...was thinking something was going to happen soon as she noticed i had more and more trouble saying i love you back to her when she said it on the phone at the end of goodbyes...and when i was leaving the house...i had noticed it for over a year and it was killing me..... i told her how sorry i was for changing so much again....and that she still walks on water...and is a great person and so pretty....and that she will be ok because she was happy single before me for many years and had all she needs for that again...her closeness to jehovah and her freinds in the congregation...she is very close to both and will be ok i hope...it was very surreal....very calm...very sad.
my bitterness and disdain for wt rules came through when talking to my parents and i was very open about how i feel as to their upcoming shunning of me, and how it feels to my son since he was just 17....and how the fear of losing them had kept me trying in my marriage for the past few years...dad was firm in his position of future action....mom said they will still always love me...and will still talk to me until i get dfd.....oh how this hurts.....dad said there is a name for people who only live for themselves and deny god but could not think of what it was....i told him i was not living just for myself...that i am a good person and there are values from him and the bible i hope i always have....i cry so hard as i type this and tell you just so you can know how painful this is....i told him i so loved the rule of treating others how you want to be treated and have always done that...even allowing myself to be wronged on so many occasions to keep peace....... he said that was a good rule....i agreed and said it was a big one too....and that while i could do it...treat him the way i would like to be treated...he would not be able to!.......left as i became emotional...big hug from mom, but i just barely put an arm on dad............oompa.
It's been a long hard road Oompa, we've all watched you suffer over the years and felt your pain.
On the one hand, it's good to see you've made a decision, on the other, yes it is sad. At least now you, and your wife can move on, I'm sure it's been equally as hard for her to endure the change.
My therapist told me once, "You can't please everyone, so you might as well please yourself", I felt that was rather cold when I heard it. In the end tho, what other logical choice is there if all are to find happiness ?
I sincerely hope you find what you've been looking for, that new lease on life.
Sincerely wishing you the best from here on.
Cas