Posts by carla

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1 Timothy 2 says to "Pray for Kings and those in high postitons". Why don't JWs do that?

by NikL in

surely the jaydubs have read these scriptures.. it seems pretty plain even in their own bible.. 2 first of all, then, i urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be made concerning all sorts of men, 2 concerning kings and all those who are in high positions, so that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with complete godly devotion and seriousness.+ 3 this is fine and acceptable in the sight of our savior, god,+ 4 whose will is that all sorts of people should be saved+ and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.

5 for there is one god,+ and one mediator+ between god and men,+ a man, christ jesus,+ 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all —this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.. .

i looked up the word "intercession" and it is defined as.... intercession or intercessory prayer is the act of praying to a deity on behalf of others.. i looked for reference to this passage in the jw library and the article i found put the emphasis on "living a quiet calm life with seriousness and godly devotion".

carla

I have asked my jw in the past if he prays for our leaders (President, congress, senate, local govt, etc..) using Romans 13:1-

Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.-NIV

and the 1 Tim. 2 scripture as quoted above (not from a wt bible, naturally)

His response? anger. I was surprised at that time he didn't pull out the gb blah, blah, blah. Though when he first joined the gb were not the rock stars they are today. His response was surprising to me and I think he had some cognitive dissonance going on therefore he could only respond with anger.

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Anyone know what the special talk is this weekend?

by charity7 in

non jw so thank you for bearing with me.

do special talks happen with individual congregations or is it throughout?

i was told by my husband that i had to go with him and the rest of his family to the special talk that was happening this weekend.

carla

Is this during regular meeting time? or is it yet another way to get people to the kh at off meeting time? just a regular Sunday? thanks.

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How did you feel when you got baptized?

by Schnufti in

back in 2005, i remember sitting in the stadium in the special rows with 42 others.

8000 people were looking at us - maybe even with a binocular - while listening to the speech.

my family and my friends among them, being all proud of me.. i don't remember being enthusiastic.

carla

"maybe even with a binocular" - do any of you find that a bit creepy? or is it just me?

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So, any comments from the Memorial?

by NewYork44M in

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perhaps i missed the comments, but i did not see a lot of comments from, or about, the memorial.

it happened last night, right?.

in years past the jwn board was hot with comments.

carla

Perry,

"And when He had taken a cup and given thanks, He gave it to them, saying, “Drink from it, all of you; for this is My blood of the covenant, which is poured out for many for forgiveness of sins. Mt. 26: 27, 28"

Does the wt Bible leave out "all of you"?

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Animals, Blood, Food, and JW Beliefs

by dubstepped in

i'm just thinking aloud here.

i watched a show yesterday and they were talking about how the largest mammals of the sea (whales) fed on such small creatures (plankton) rather than eating some other large creatures.

anyway, it got me thinking about how as jws we thought that in paradise animals would all be herbivores, that they would no longer eat other animals.

carla

Don't they say satan made some of the things like mosquitoes just to mess things up for us? I thought my jw told me that was a theory once but he was a new jw at that time so maybe some random jw told him that theory (?)

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Proof they are not a cult??

by lriddle80 in

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the following is from a facebook post and..maybe i am missing something, but none of these items disprove them being in a cult.

jehovah's witnesses are often mistaken to be something else.

some say it a secret cult while others believe something else.......i'm very proud to tell you my readers that i'm one of jehovah's witnesses.. below are 17 facts that shows jehovah's witness is not a cult..... 1. there are currently about 8 million jehovah's witnesses around the world.. 2. an average of over 800 people become jehovah's witnesses daily.. 3. we keep coming to your doors even though we have regular jobs and family like you because we are admonished to do so by jesus christ.. 4. we do not participate in wars and for this reason more than 1600 jehovah's witnesses were killed by hitler.. 5. there are currently over 300 jehovah's witnesses in prison in south korea and egypt because they refused to stop preaching or enlist in the military.. 6. we don't salute the flag or say national anthems because we pledge our allegiance only to god.. 7. yes we have fun and party too so don't get that twisted.. 8. not many of us know the name of the president of our headquarters because we do not pay any reference to him he is a fellow servant of god just like the rest of us are.. 9. you earn the privilege of becoming a jehovah's witness.

carla

Ok, I will feed the troll today. Here a just a few reasons why jw's are a cult- from Steve Hasaan bit model- learn more here https://freedomofmind.com/bite-model/

Behavior Control

Promote dependence and obedience
Modify behavior with rewards and punishments
Dictate where and with whom you live
Restrict or control sexuality
Control clothing and hairstyle
Regulate what and how much you eat and drink
Deprive you of seven to nine hours of sleep
Exploit you financially
Restrict leisure time and activities
Require you to seek permission for major decisions

Information Control

Deliberately withhold and distort information
Forbid you from speaking with ex-members and critics
Discourage access to non-cult sources of information
Divide information into Insider vs. Outsider doctrine
Generate and use propaganda extensively
Use information gained in confession sessions against you
Gaslight to make you doubt your own memory
Require you to report thoughts, feelings, & activities to superiors
Encourage you to spy and report on others’ “misconduct”

Thought Control

Instill Black vs. White, Us vs. Them, & Good vs. Evil thinking
Change your identity, possibly even your name
Use loaded language and cliches to stop complex thought
Induce hypnotic or trance states to indoctrinate
Teach thought-stopping techniques to prevent critical thoughts
Allow only positive thoughts
Use excessive meditation, singing, prayer, & chanting to block thoughts
Reject rational analysis, critical thinking, & doubt

Emotional Control

Instill irrational fears (phobias) of questioning or leaving the group
Label some emotions as evil, worldly, sinful, or wrong
Teach emotion-stopping techniques to prevent anger, homesickness
Promote feelings of guilt, shame, & unworthiness
Shower you with praise and attention (“love bombing”)
Threaten your friends and family
Shun you if you disobey or disbelieve
Teach that there is no happiness or peace outside the group

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Protest against Jehovah's Witness organization in Poland on March 26th, 2017, covered by a local news TV

by WTS Archive in

watch it here: .

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8koav8xzck .

the protest was organized by a former jw elder and pioneer couple - alex and iza.

carla

Well done!

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Jehovah witnesses and life insurance

by Steel in

my wife was recently cornered by the elders about her blood card because she didn't have one.

so one elder witnessed her sign it and he signed it and one elder made himself her health care agent.. with the memorial coming up i am thinking of maybe having a life insurance policy drawn up, maybe in the amount of 300 or 400 dollars a month and i will ask these two dipshits if they would like to sign it.

it only seems fair they should be finicially responsible for my son since they made my wife sign a document endangering her safety.. what do you think?.

carla

"BUT-it is OUTRAGEOUS that they would ask to be her "representative"-- I don't know why you guys think that, I believe that is the way it is for all ubm's and possibly even for those suspected of being 'weak' jw's.

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a jw hell

by carla in

a jw hell-.

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/smurfs-obsessed-woman-7000-smurf-items-worlds-largest-collection-190854430.html.

i would like to see a video of jw attempting a bible study in her place!.

carla

a jw hell-

https://www.yahoo.com/celebrity/smurfs-obsessed-woman-7000-smurf-items-worlds-largest-collection-190854430.html

I would like to see a video of jw attempting a bible study in her place!

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Man answers the door naked when JW's appear..

by James Mixon in

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http;www.worlstarhipop.com/videos/video.php?v=wshhmg115hx2qp8inyuo.went too far, man answers the door naked when jw's appear..https//www.youtube.com/watch?v=akj2w94el_a...oh hell search, went to far, man answers the door naked when jw's appear, a young black male......it was e-mail to me and i'am using the same address but not working for me,hopefully you will find it.

a young jw child was present, not good.......

carla

Here is a story I heard- a guy was home sat morn and enjoying his wife on their couch, door knock, "let's ignore it!" , knock again, again they ignore the knock by the third knock and with time between each knock the kept thinking they would go away, by the third knock the guy was seriously annoyed. Finally he opens the door naked and the jw has the nerve to say, "you shouldn't open your door naked!" The guy had to explain that if someone does not open their door they may not want to be bothered, I was in the midst of making love to my wife and you refused to leave my door! of course I'm naked!" the jw's were still highly offended and had no concept of why the homeowner was miffed about having to answer his door when after the first knock they didn't leave.

Yes, this guy loves to tell this story and spread the good news about nosy intrusive jw's who won't take no for an answer.

In today's day I don't understand why anybody opens their door to these people or anybody for that matter. Remember a story a number of years back, down south maybe, where some jw's were actually casing homes to rob later? yeah, yeah, they weren't 'real' jw's, give me a break, they were baptized and went all the time, they were jw's.