Yes, I think they are taught that in the bs class! Perhaps an ex jw can enlighten us on this. Oh, never mind, as a regular poster likes to say, let's review, it's a cult.
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by The Searcher inone of the "elephants in the room" which j.w.
's will not and cannot question or discuss, is the org's dogma that a person's own death wipes out their sins!..
when active, i asked two c.o.
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J.W.'s shut their minds to this teaching
by The Searcher inone of the "elephants in the room" which j.w.
's will not and cannot question or discuss, is the org's dogma that a person's own death wipes out their sins!..
when active, i asked two c.o.
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carla
Years ago I asked my jw about this very thing! he was flummoxed by the question. I asked, "if you believe that YOUR death absolves you of sin then why do you need Jesus at all? why did He need to die upon the cross?" (nevermind the cross/stake issue here for the moment) His answer was full of umm's and mumbling and then he came up with, "Jesus is our King!" as if that answered the question. Then naturally he attempted to change the subject to, "it wasn't a cross blah, blah, blah....." and never got around to actually answering the original question. sigh.
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Amazing YouTuber talking to JWs
by Listener ini recently came across a female youtuber called "bridget azaz".
she has made a number of youtubes recording discussions that she has had with a number of jws.
she does an excellant job and i thought i would make mention of her here.there appears to be another youtube site that either she or someone else has created with a couple of her interviews which have been touched up from the originals on her 'bridget azaz' site.this is one of them and i think you will enjoy it.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gkescwpafmu&feature=em-subs_digest.
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carla
She did an awesome job!
I wish my jw would knock on her door.
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carla
Yes.
So many good posts here today!
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Do You Miss The "Red Dot"?
by minimus inlol ...if you are new here, you might not understand the question..
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carla
Yes, I liked the red dot!
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Could a petition to make shunning illegal work?
by aboveusonlysky inwe're currently watching leah remini's series about scientology and the main thing she seems to focus on is the shunning policies of the scientology organization which let's face it are very similar to jw procedure.. i was wondering with all that's in the media recently about bullying could a petition be put together to get the goverment to consider making religiously mandated shunning illegal?
has such a thing been tried before?.
https://petition.parliament.uk/help says the following - .
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carla
While you cannot regulate love, a petition could bring the policy of shunning by jw's to the public's attention. Make it very public. Not sure how UK laws work concerning human rights etc...
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Anyone know what the special talk is this weekend?
by charity7 innon jw so thank you for bearing with me.
do special talks happen with individual congregations or is it throughout?
i was told by my husband that i had to go with him and the rest of his family to the special talk that was happening this weekend.
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carla
Thanks Skepsis, I had forgotten this tradition after their annual reject Jesus memorial. Must be a senior moment?
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1 Timothy 2 says to "Pray for Kings and those in high postitons". Why don't JWs do that?
by NikL insurely the jaydubs have read these scriptures.. it seems pretty plain even in their own bible.. 2 first of all, then, i urge that supplications, prayers, intercessions, and thanksgiving be made concerning all sorts of men, 2 concerning kings and all those who are in high positions, so that we may go on leading a calm and quiet life with complete godly devotion and seriousness.+ 3 this is fine and acceptable in the sight of our savior, god,+ 4 whose will is that all sorts of people should be saved+ and come to an accurate knowledge of truth.
5 for there is one god,+ and one mediator+ between god and men,+ a man, christ jesus,+ 6 who gave himself a corresponding ransom for all —this is what is to be witnessed to in its own due time.. .
i looked up the word "intercession" and it is defined as.... intercession or intercessory prayer is the act of praying to a deity on behalf of others.. i looked for reference to this passage in the jw library and the article i found put the emphasis on "living a quiet calm life with seriousness and godly devotion".
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carla
I have asked my jw in the past if he prays for our leaders (President, congress, senate, local govt, etc..) using Romans 13:1-
Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.-NIVand the 1 Tim. 2 scripture as quoted above (not from a wt bible, naturally)
His response? anger. I was surprised at that time he didn't pull out the gb blah, blah, blah. Though when he first joined the gb were not the rock stars they are today. His response was surprising to me and I think he had some cognitive dissonance going on therefore he could only respond with anger.
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Anyone know what the special talk is this weekend?
by charity7 innon jw so thank you for bearing with me.
do special talks happen with individual congregations or is it throughout?
i was told by my husband that i had to go with him and the rest of his family to the special talk that was happening this weekend.
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carla
Is this during regular meeting time? or is it yet another way to get people to the kh at off meeting time? just a regular Sunday? thanks.