Posts by Cordelia

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Finally out of Hiding

by Shador in

well i finally came out and told my parents i did not believe in the wts doctrines.. for me the last straw was seeing honesty's simple clear proof of the wrongness of 607.

'course i couldn't remember all the refs last night but now i've printed them out.. told them about the ngo thing.

of course they said the "ebul 'postates" were twisting the whole thing.. my dad tried to "reason with me" thusly:.

i really feel for you, but im also dead impressed you have told you're family things it has took me over a year to do. and believe me it is crueler in the long run to decieve them it is great that you have been honest,

I'd just say do what i really want to do now and research everything dont take anyones word without checking the proof, i really want to look into things to keep the strength to stay away from the 'truth'

But from my own experience i'd say dont get dfed if you dont have to or if you do then stay living at home coz you're parents will feel better and be able to talk to you alot more, its horriable feeling like you have given them no choice, when they are so blinded by the society, but you do have to be true to yourself thats 0ne thing i have learned.

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Please explain how disfellowshipping is a loving gesture

by McKafka99 in

can someone please outline the rationale and scriptures used to support the idea that disfellowshipping is a loving gesture?

i am trying to understand how this behavior is justified, when in my mind in seems a simple matter; one only needs ask oneself, 'if jesus (or jehovah) were standing next to you, would jesus (or jehovah), support any shunning-type actions?

' i find it very difficult that the answer would ever be 'yes'.

Cordelia

it is loving because

1. we will see the need to go back to the congregation hence saving our lives at armagadon

2 we will once again live moral lives

you know what i thought i could do a big list seeing as its what my family tells me all the time but you know what i cant! it is as little toe said it is control! they leave you no option but to go back to them, well at least thats what i thought till just recently, i just did a post about what my sister did to me the other day and how that is loving i do not know!!

i agree maybe people should be punished for wrong doing, but the shunning and attending meetings till men decide we can be reinstated is wrong, prod son, king david manassah all were just forgiven, even that man in corinth they so like to quote was back by pauls 2nd letter, now how long was that? he prob just went one day coz he had stopped his incest and got forgivenn, where the hell they get that we should be shunned till men decide we repent??

Also let him be as a tax collector said jesus, well he talked to tax collectors!! jws say he meant tax collectors as the jews veiwed them not as jesus did, and apparently the jews did shun them! but who decides exactly what jesus meant by that! going beyond the scrips or what

what gets me is WHY CANT THEY SEE HOW UNLOVING AND CONTROLLING IT IS?AND HOW THE HELL DO THEY THINK JEHOVAH AND JESUS WOULD BEHAVE LIKE THAT??

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Please explain how disfellowshipping is a loving gesture

by McKafka99 in

can someone please outline the rationale and scriptures used to support the idea that disfellowshipping is a loving gesture?

i am trying to understand how this behavior is justified, when in my mind in seems a simple matter; one only needs ask oneself, 'if jesus (or jehovah) were standing next to you, would jesus (or jehovah), support any shunning-type actions?

' i find it very difficult that the answer would ever be 'yes'.

Cordelia

it is lov

587

Show us your picture

by Honesty in

jw
friends

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that is, if you are able to without the prospect of facing a three-man kangaroo court appointed by jerhover to keep the congregation clean from apostate influences.. i'll go first: .

Cordelia

sirona!!!!!

You can still tell its me!!!

oh well never mind,

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What EXACTLY Is The Society's View On Sex???????

by minimus in

jw
friends

what would you say??

?

Cordelia

im going to the convention just to find out the latest meaning of porneia!

I got a 'scriptual' divorce for having a certain picture on my phone and a 20 second hand job!!!

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For All Who Are Going to the Convention This Year

by drew sagan in

jw
friends

for most of us who are going to the 'delieverance at hand' district convention we want to be low on the radar.

but wouldn't it be terrible if we missed out meeting someone else from the board while we attended the same convention?

listing what convention your going to might be to much of a give away for some people, but i really don't care.

Cordelia

anyone going to the manchester uk one

29

So I Finally Dissassociated Myself...

by arecibo in

hi guys, .

just want to say how great it is to be able to talk to people in the same situation.

sometimes it feels like there's no-one who can really understand what it's like being brought up in the jws.

Cordelia

well done, I got dfed a year ago and am still struggling with the guilt from my family, why caNT THEY SEE IT IS SOOO WRONG TO DISOWN THEIR KIDS, YOPU HAVE DONE WELL STICK WITH IT

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UK & IRELAND MAP

by ballistic in

jw
friends

i had an idea that i could build a uk map of everyones location which would show you instantly who is in your area from jwd.. (it might be an idea to do a seperate us one aswell but i'll wait and see if this one takes off first, or if anyone from the us wants to volunteer to do that one).

(and australia but you are all in the same backyard anyway - literally!!!).

anyway, all you have to do is post or email me your username and town and i will draw you on the map above which will change gradually to include everyone!.

Cordelia

hey you, why am i not on

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Girls help!!! What signs when a woman is interested in a guy?

by Spectrum in

generally i find that if a girl is interested in me she makes it quite obvious by her actions and words.

i'm fine with this.

however there are times when a i really can't tell and this is the problem i'm grappling with at the moment.

Cordelia

ballistic that blind thing was really funny !!

i cant answer on this thread as im still fooked up from jw world (or is that just a good excuse!)

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Sickoflies Asked Me To Post This For All Of You!!!!! Please Look!

by Lady Liberty in

i was going to post the follow thread, but i've used up my posts for today, maybe you could do it for me?

ok folks, i'm going to attempt to write a comphrensive thread on this subject and update it over the next few days so i will be ready for my appeal hearing (which i heard at the memorial might be this coming monday).

i went to the library at mcmaster and checked out every book by grayson i could find.

Cordelia

ive augued this loads, and all our points are really good, but has anyone been able to get past the witness' 'well it has to be 607 coz of counting back the 70 years,?' no matter who ive spoke to even with the lines of the kings showing the dates only from the bible they will not listen because they believe the bibles 70 years.

anyone has an answer as towhat the bible 70 years were talking about if it wasnt that, i understood it could just be babylonion dominion including other nations such as tyre, and not talking about babylon itself but the bible seems to be meaning babylon?

any answers for that?