Crumpet--I think it's awesome your response to their extremely hurtful behavior. I have 3 kids, and I could never turn my back on them ever. I love them too much. I spend some of my time teaching my kids to never become JW's because the thought of them not speaking to me really tears me up.
love2Bworldly
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Making contact with family
by Crumpet insome of you may know that my parents and whole family do not have any contact with me, apart from my dad who has provided his mobile number for "family business/emergencies".
i never try to contact them anymore after a negative experience after being beaten up trying to break up a streetfight last november when i called my dad and he hung up as soon as he realised it was me crying on the other end.. .
anyway - i decided that just because they want to forget about me i don't have to be the same anymore and i wanted them to know how happy i was.
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Not Having Kids in 'This System....'
by lonelysheep inone of my former bs conductors and her husband decided when they got married, they wouldn't have any kids 'in this system'.
i know the world could be better, but i see no reason not to have children if that's what your wishes really are....and you're able to for that matter.
she just turned 34 and really wants to have a child.
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love2Bworldly
Having kids changed my life in a good way, and I'm thinking about maybe being a foster parent when my kids grow up. If anyone is bitter about not having children, it's never too late to adopt. I really enjoy taking care of kids although it is a thankless job at times.
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Law & Order SVU
by lonelysheep indid anyone see it last night?
this is my favorite show.
it was about a man who had his own cult following.
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love2Bworldly
I am a true Law & Order junkie, I watch all the reruns on cable. I always enjoy shows that discuss different cults, and now that I am out of the JW's--I can really see the connection now. But the JW's are really good at twisting the scriptures and making it sound logical. I used to get so sick of hearing that dumb phrase "thinking persons" in the WT publications, because if you listen to the WTBTS obviously you aren't allowed to think.
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Anyone have 'new light' on US vs Russia?
by love2Bworldly inhi--i was wondering if anyone knew what the watchtower says about the superpowers destroying babylon the great?
i have been out for many years, and i know they used to teach that russia and the us were going to have the great war and then destroy all religions except the witnesses.
any takers?
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love2Bworldly
Thanks for all your inputs. It's really funny how the more I do research about the WBTS, the more BS I remember. Then I feel angry because I wish my sister would get out of it, and I feel angry that they lie to so many people. I'm not bitter, just so so thankful to God that I am seeing the light more and more. It took me years to realize that the JW's were so wrong about everything and so full of crap. I'm finding it very theraputic to read all these posts from other enlightened people, who understand what I'm going through.
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Anyone have 'new light' on US vs Russia?
by love2Bworldly inhi--i was wondering if anyone knew what the watchtower says about the superpowers destroying babylon the great?
i have been out for many years, and i know they used to teach that russia and the us were going to have the great war and then destroy all religions except the witnesses.
any takers?
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love2Bworldly
Hi--I was wondering if anyone knew what the Watchtower says about the superpowers destroying Babylon the Great? I have been out for many years, and I know they used to teach that Russia and the US were going to have the great war and then destroy all religions except the witnesses. Any takers?
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Is there a slowdown in congregation get togethers?
by truthseeker ini was just reading thelisteners post from an earlier thread, and it got me thinking just how little time dubs have to associate togther.. it seems to be more and more the fact, that the only time dubs see each other to "associate" - if you can even call it that - is at meetings and conventions.. even at conventions though, the dubs are told not to go outside for lunch, regardless of whether it is a nice day of not.
(note, this may not be true at all conventions).
where is a jehovah's witness supposed to get this period of refreshment so he can do more?
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love2Bworldly
I remember that the few times there were get-togethers there were always people who were offended at something. The elders usually made comments in their talks about large get-togethers being a bad thing because people would be out of 'control' (they meant elder control). I even remember an elder telling me at my bookstudy that it was not a good idea to have goodies every week, we should only do it at an unscheduled time once in a while. I remmber thinking in my head--what is wrong with these people?
I do remember the assemblies strongly discouraging people from leaving at lunchtime. What control freaks!
And weddings were not to be conducted at a place other than the Kingdom Hall, and heaven forbid you should use a non-Witness song at the ceremony. And it was considered a sin if you ran away to Reno and quietly got married because that meant you were in a hurry to get married so you could have sex.
My congregation was pretty extreme, we had some whacko witnesses who had immense control over the even the elders. Their whole family were pioneers, except the unbelieving father, and the daughters were still living at home into their forties, because of course it is evil to get married or heaven forbid have babies in this system. They did housecleaning and all shared one car. I remember when I was 18 I moved out on my own, and they couldn't believe that I did not stay at home and pioneer rather than work full time.
Anyway, forgive me for getting off the subject, but reading these posts really brings back a lot of puckey memories.
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What kind of people are attracked to the JWS?
by new boy inmostly i'd say unhappy ones!
i look back at my life, and say it was my unhappy mother, who infected my family.
it was perfect for her.
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love2Bworldly
Frankly I am still baffled at some of the seemingly "intelligent" people who are converted by the JW's. But since they are a brain-washing cult, they are just good at what they do--twisting the scriptures and twisting the truth, and also not being up front about all the little "rules" to live by until after a person is baptised. By then it's too late, and the poor misguided person is scared to leave, waiting for Jehovah to rain fire and destruction on their head any time they have a bad thought about the WTS.
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The Pope just took his last poop.........
by WingCommander ini'm sure the jw's will be dancing around the may pole tonight celebrating!!
honestly, mother therasa did more to help the needy and poor then the pope did any day.
i always found it funny how catholics worshipped the pope, and even seem to think he is christ on earth or something.
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love2Bworldly
LOL I love that--Pope took his last poop! LOL I can't stop cracking up at that! :-)
Today is the first day I have been posting. I abhor the Catholic religion, but out of respect for other people I restrain my public comments. Here however I can say how I feel. The pope is way worse than the Pharisees of Jesus' day.
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Does anyone Love Jehovah anymore?
by defd in.
i know people have left for people issues but what about jehovah god and jesus?
what have they done?.
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love2Bworldly
I love the Lord, the God of the Bible, not the JW god who is painted as a hostile being who enjoys destroying people or destroying their spirit/individuality.
I recently read that "God's mercy is so much bigger than his anger". That statement has been very healing for me. The WTS teaches at every meeting that the JWs are not studying enough, preaching enough, etc etc etc. They go so far as to discourage families from taking vacations that will involve missing meetings. Or they have special talks that will basically say that anything you enjoy on this earth is evil--can't listen to music by wordly musicians who do drugs or are homosexual, can't watch ET because his finger is a phallic symbol, can't go to college because there you will be encouraged to do drugs or have illicit sex, etc etc etc. So the god of the JWs basically will never approve of you or want you to be happy.
Anyway--that's my 2 cents.
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Making new friends after fading
by M@el5trom inwhat are some good methods for finding and making new friends after fading away?
i know this is critical to help myself and my wife to move on, and we both have suffered from depression partly because we are isolated to each other for now.
we are good friends, but we both feel the need for others also.
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love2Bworldly
This is my very first post!
To love11, I feel for you and I was laughing with you as far as the coloring eggs and watering the Christmas tree. It just sounded so endearing. My parents are not JWs, so I celebrated holidays as a kid, and boy do I enjoy celebrating every holiday there is now that I am away from the stupid WTS. My kids crack up at me because I am so into decorating, cooking and enjoying every type of holiday there is. I think I am trying to make up for all the years I wasn't allowed to celebrate anything, my mother who has passed away--used to be so hurt when my sister and I would not celebrate holidays with the family. Now I can just enjoy life and live each day the best I can.
I have been inactive for about 15 years. I was disfellowshipped, reinstated because I didn't know how to function outside the KH, then shortly thereafter became inactive. No one has hassled me since I left, other than the elders driving by my house and telling me to "call them". My sister believe it or not, has a relationship with me now--she is a JW and for years did not speak to me. I have to tread lightly around her and try not to act so happily "worldly".
Anyway, I didn't really feel spiritually healed until after attending a couple different churches for about 3 years. A Baptist church I was attending a couple years ago, had a special evening workshop about cults. One night was set aside for JW's and I received literature from the Watchman group. I enjoy the website "Watch the Tower", about Paul Blizzard who was a Bethelite and is now a Baptist minister. I am slowly feeling like a normal person, but I sometimes still struggle with some of the brainwashing garbage the JWs put in my head. It's been a long uphill climb, but I am a much happier person. I have depression issues anyway, so the JW thing really gave me low self-esteem knowing I could never measure up. But now I am on medication and happily living my life with my new husband and my wonderful kids. I cannot reclaim the years the JW's stole from me however, and wish I had gotten a college degree when I was young. So now I just have to take classes and slowly work toward what I want. And I pray for all those mislead JW's because it is a very evil religion.