what would happen if satan repented and asked his father for forgiveness?
apostacy is not the unforgiveable sin...israel went apostate many times and j. begged them to come back and accepted them back when they did...solomon died a senseless apostate..wt 15 july 1987 p19
but no jw believes he is unworthy of a ressurection
unforgivable sin is sinning against the holy spirit...whatever that is
i thought it would be interesting for those of us who still attend the meetings to let everyone know what our local needs part was/will be this week.
(the km allots 15 minutes to local needs at this weeks service meeting).
ours will be on meeting attendance.
ha....and those it applys to wont be there.....tijkmo
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this was mine:.
"you're a brand rescued from the burning..in israel you would have been stoned to death..get down on your hands and knees, get your head hard down on the carpet and beg jehovah for forgiveness".. they don't tell you about that sort of thing when you first have a bible study.. englishman.. .
i was suicidal cos of how i was being treated and i went to the commitee and the chairman...tony boyland..temp c.o.......said to me(i can still hear him say it)....'well other people seem to manage'.......then ignored me for best part of a year before reluctantly reinstating me and has never spoken to me since....
at elders meetings we were told that wrongdoers may not remember what judicial commitees say to them at the time.but they will remember how they were treated
tijkmo of the i will never forget class
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have you found some new band or artist that you would reccomend we listen to...for this to work we would need to know what style of music you normally listen to and then we can know if its what we would enjoy...eg.
i like pink floyd...genesis...yes...etc.....................and have just found mercury rev......brill
thanx guys for all your suggestions...i will check out as much as i can....keep them coming..
fleaman...have some flaming lips and grandaddy..good stuff...have heard some p spree but bit put off by their smocks....going to see porcupine tree nx week
oasis new cd is called....dont believe the truth...we should all buy it if only for the title...could be their breakthrough in usa if we do
i zipped thru the new organization book and can tell you that it's a waste of trees.. i think that the updated section on df'ing is mostly just a legalistic response to distance.
themselves from any potential defamation charges, by default.. it downplays the blood issue and 'worldly' holidays but almost none of that matters.. why?
because in the end, the sservice dept calls the shots.
3 That statement is faithful.
If any man is reaching out for an office of overseer, he is desirous of a fine work. 2
The overseer should therefore be irreprehensible, a husband of one wife, moderate in habits, sound in mind, orderly, hospitable, qualified to teach, 3 not a drunken brawler, not a smiter, but reasonable, not belligerent, not a lover of money, 4 a man presiding over his own household in a fine manner, having children in subjection with all seriousness; 5 (if indeed any man does not know how to preside over his own household, how will he take care of God?s congregation?) 6 not a newly converted man, for fear that he might get puffed up [with pride] and fall into the judgment passed upon the Devil.
why would it be nessercary to tell elders not to be fanatical when the holy spirit has only ever appointed men who have acheived the qualifications above....tijkmo..of the a few good men legal reasoning class
i often share the experiences i read on this forum with my wife.
every time i leave this forum, i just shake my head in disbelief.
i ask, don't these people have a will and life of their own?
i think a lot has to do with how long you have been influenced by what you believed...you may always have been a rebel but many do not have the personality or strength to go against the flow..esp if they have been told not to for so long..
i was thinking that many jws are like the relatives of a rich uncle...they are in line to receive a huge reward when he dies...so they put up with all his nonsense even when its directed at them for fear of being removed from the will and they justify it by saying it will only be for a short time....for me it wasnt like that....i loved the uncle, he was always good to me, we were buddies, so i didnt want him to die...but then he did something so cruel to me that i no longer wanted to spend time in his company anymore and im not going to pretend so that i get some money when he dies cos i didnt like him for his money anyway so he can stuff if
i have a friend who is a jw as is her husband.
she is stuck in a marriage with a man whom i believe has major mental problems and he is visciously abusive to her emotionally.
on two occasions he became physically violent with her as in he grabbed her and pinned her while he was yelling at her.
leaving is not in itself a solution to everything so hope she isnt looking for quick results but tis a step in the right direction for now...hope it continues to be
im noticing something reading the post about things up at bethel.
whats the deal with so many of the old bethelites having so much money.
being at this site has made me remember my first marriage.
lilbit...youve got to be shittin me (like how is that possible)....now stop teasin and spill the jeanniebeanz
is it pictures of nipples you look at or actual nipples....that would be some kinda chat up line....can i see if you have pictures in your nipples
im noticing something reading the post about things up at bethel.
whats the deal with so many of the old bethelites having so much money.
being at this site has made me remember my first marriage.
lilbit tell us now
