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Jesus Christ! Is this a contradiction?
by observador inthe other day while rereading the scriptures about the last supper, i spotted something that is very interesting.. mathew 26:23 reads:"in reply he said: "he that dips his hand with me in the bowl is the one that will betray me.".
the above doesn't make much sense to me because it implies that one would have to give himself away by doing exacly what jesus said the betrayor would do.
now, look at how john words the same event in john 13:26:"therefore jesus answered: "it is that one to whom i shall give the morsel that i dip".
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Links between Jesus and other ancient Man-Gods
by doogie inrecently, at the prompting of another poster, i began to look into the similarities between jesus and other man-gods of ancient cultures.
i was shocked!
not so much by the minute details shared between the gospels and the stories of krishna, osiris, zoroaster, mithras, dionysus and others, but mainly because i had never heard of this before.. things like: being born of a virgin, espousing the redeeming power of baptism, turning water into wine at a wedding, having an entourage of 12 close followers, those 12 sharing a final meal with the god, instructing his followers to eat of his body and blood to benefit from his sacrifice (the blood usually symbolized by juice or wine), sacrificing his life by crucifixion on behalf of mankind, being dead for 3 days and then resurrected, he will return at some point to cleanse the world, and much more.. now, i know this is probably nothing new to most of you, but i was amazed.
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Why did Israelite soldiers die following Jehovahs direction?
by truthseeker injoining the armed forces presents an inherent risk that one will die in combat.
there is a historical account in the bible detailing huge losses for the israelite army, when they followed jehovah's direction.
to set the scene - a group of homosexual men surround the house of an old man, asking him to bring out a lodger for sexual gratification.
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Crisis of Conscience
by Thinking inmy copy came in and i picked it up today.
i have a friend that i met online.....about 5 years ago.
at the time he was an elder and i was a struggling sister.
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little flock
by peacefulpete injust a comment for the new ones here.
the wt has attatched great doctrinal significance to the words "little flock" in luke 12:32. what however does the context tell us the author was intending?
luke 12 opens with a crowd of curious people gathering and trampling each other and jesus turns to his 12, his friends and disciples, and addresses them with private counsel.
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Books not found in other Bibles
by homme perdu ini found an oxford bible at a thrift store that included one or two extra books.
i dont recall the names.
can someone please give me some information on this subject?
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1 John 4:1
by mjl inwent to the meeting this morning and stayed for the talk.
the speaker used a text that i thought was very ironic, 1 john 4:1 which reads " beloved ones, do not believe every inspired expression, but test the inspired expressions to see whether they origanate with god, because many false prophets have gone forth into the world.
" i found this ironic becuase we were trained not to test anything in the publications and never question what we hear from the platform.
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Need some scriptures ...
by Wild_Thing innormally, i do not get involved in biblical debate, being that i am a doubting atheist, but a friend of mine made a comment that struck a nerve with me, probably because her mentality seems to echo those of jws.
the question was asked if all humans are considered "god's children" (was not asked by be, of course).
this was her response:.
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rove about
by peacefulpete inok blondies review of the wt got me thinking, dan 12:4 speaks of somone 'roving about and knowledge becoming abundant'.
what a strange expression.
like most obscure passages they are easy to misuse as this weeks wt demonstrated (and others similarly)by saying roving about meant searching through the bible.
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GENEOLOGY OF JESUS
by Mary ini was doing some research for one of my courses and i discovered that the geneology of jesus, outlined in matthew chapter 1 and luke chapter 3, are different.
does anyone know why?