Effervescent

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  What "Discipline" Did You Recieve While A Witness?

  by minimus in

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  were you "disciplined" by the elders (or jehovah god) for anything while in the "truth"??

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  I got drug in the back room because my best friend had a boyfriend. She was unbaptized and they never saw eachother anywhere other than at school (It didn't last long and they didn't do anything more than kiss) but it was found out I knew about it, so I was a party to her sin... you know... the sin of holding hands with worldly boys.

  They told me basically I was lucky they didn't disfellowship me, but since it seemed I was repentent (I started crying) they would let it go at that. Looking back... it seems like a huge tempest in a teapot and totally rediculous, but at the time I was physically ill for weeks over it. Every time the phone rang and my Dad disappeared into his office I wanted to throw up.

  All the more reason to let my own children lead a normal life.
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  What has this board given to you?

  by Crumpet in

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  having cooled down a bit in the garden i got to thinking about what this board has given me and wondered what anyone else feels they have gained from it.. for me its been invaluable and even life changing:.

  1) freedom from the brainwashing - when i came here i had already read ray franz's books and still believed it jws had the truth - hat i was basically worthless and that i would die at armageddon.

  the reasoned conversations and help of the posters from all over the world has enabled me to have freedom of thought - something i didnt even know i didnt have until i spent time here.. 2) friends who empathise and know from an experience what i have been through in a way outsiders can never possiby understand.. 3) entertainment - unbelievable laughs and moments of humour that have cheered me up so many times.. 4) association - via the aposta bbqs and telephone chats i can now have so i don't feel so isolated and to some extent alleviates the awful pain of separation from my loved family.. 5) information - from this board and posters here i have found out things that were my right to know but would never have learnt otherwise - my sisters marriage, my aunts tragic death.. 6) reunions - i have now met at least one person who knows me from my childhood and has grown into a man of such kindness and patience that i would have missed out on completely had he not been here and been kind enough to hold my hand - even when i've been an irritating totured little idiot!.

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  ... This itchy rash that I just can't seem to get rid of... Oh wait, nevermind...

  I used to push a lot of feelings and hurt deep down inside of myself. I didn't feel validated to feel the hurt I did, mostly because when it was mentioned to those who came in to my life Post-JW, they just didn't understand my experiences and how traumatic they were. Before my husband really started understanding the JW experience (which he is now starting to grasp the scope of) his feelings were "So you had to knock on a few doors... Well, I had to go to a Catholic High School!"

  Just like with probably most any survivor community, the best thing it does for people is let you know you aren't alone... which goes a long way (at least for me) in the healing process.

  I also LOVE the researchers on this site. I have learned so much from them. It's helped a lot to cement the correctness of my current Non-JW life in my mind and get rid of any guilt I may have had left.
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  Another Bold Faced Lying Watchtower (Aug. 1, 06)

  by metatron in

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  "dignity for all - soon!

  " , proclaims the 8/1/'06 watchtower cover!.

  do jehovah's witnesses really believe that dignity for all is soon?

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  It should read "Dignity for all of US"...

  What does that mean anyways??? That doesn't really mean anything to me... although it sounds pretty, it doesn't have a whole lot of meaning.

  Do you have the whole magazine? I'd be interested to know what that article is really about. I'm sure it's another...

  "You're all gonna die soon and we're going to take your houses and watch buzzards eat your corpses from your own front windows" article.
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  Glad Stealth453 is here? Do you agree, lose the diaper? Vote. YES or NO.

  by Wasanelder Once in

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  ok, this is for fun.

  how many are glad stealth is still here?

  i vote yes.. how many vote lose the diaper?

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  Maybe we should just chip in and get the poor guy a pair of under-roos...

  

  I think it's about time he graduated to big boy pants...
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  Hate at site of convention goers!

  by blumandy in

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  so im eating dinner with my hubby and kids at a local family restaurant, when in walks some people with name tags of some sort, i cant read them, im sitting to far away, but they have the look of the convention name tags.

  well i guess i can spot a jw right off, because sure enough as i got closer, there it was a flash back from the past.

  the same ol name tags.

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  I think for some there are stages we go through when we see Witnesses out and about. I wouldn't say that you probably hate THEM persay, but everything they stand for. Sometimes it's hard to separate the two...

  I felt the same way you did for awhile, then the feeling gave way to mild irritation. Soon I was rolling my eyes, and then moved on to amusement and pity.

  It's ok to acknowledge these feelings and work through them....
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  Be Honest: Did You ACTUALLY Report Accurate Field Service Time?

  by minimus in

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  i bet most people did not.

  i think nearly everyone counted time spent on breaks.

  or sitting in the car for an hour and a half while the elders did a "shepherding" call.

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  I did fudge, but not by much. My Dad was the Congregation Secretary for years, so I couldn't get away with too much time padding. I'd usually claim I talked to kids at my school for a couple extra hours a month. (YEAH RIGHT!)
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  I am a little bit confused.

  by Stealth453 in

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  jr brown said in response to this question, "so neither the volunteer workers nor the leadership itself of the jehovah'w witness church professes to be spirit-inspired or directed or what not?

  ", "no, no, we don't have anybody that expects that".. yet, one of the 2 pre baptism questions is;.

  do you understand that your dedication and baptism identify you as one of jehovah's witnesses in association with god's spirit directed organization?

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  That recording is "Theocratic Warfare" at it's finest! I had always known it happened... but really never saw it so blatantly in practice before.
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  Garrison Keller, a national treasure ...Anyone else think so?

  by confusedjw in

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  i just love that show.

  although not so much for the music, but for gk's story telling.. any other fans?.

  <tonight it was a repeat>

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  Effervescent

  Didn't he end his show a couple month's back?

  I LOVE LOVE LOVE Prarie Home Companion. They did some really great skits. Funny stuff!

  But then I'm an NPR junkie anyways. I wouldn't miss "Car Talk" for anything!
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  I think I did something very "sick" and embarassing

  by kristyann in

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  okay... so i am super embarassed once again.

  this time what happened is too embarassing to share, i think.

  most people would probably tell me i am gross, too, and most of you would probably not even want to hear it so i guess that i am better off not sharing it here.

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  Effervescent

  So now you know you have to tell us right?

  I am the QUEEN of embarrassment.... and if that's not bad enough, I gave birth to children who would do their best to open their mouths when nice people are around and say the perfect things that would make me want to crawl off and die.

  You kinda get used to the mortification after awhile.....
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  My sis calls & says,"Your dead"&"I wish you'd died in a car accident"(long)

  by morwen in

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  ya know... i'm a bit amazed at times at how utterly out of touch with reality jw's can be.

  here's a little bit of a background of what's been going on....

  i've been having an on going issue with my jw family about my husband & i(and our 4 young children) no longer going to meetings and us having questions/problems with this religion.we are not df'd nor da'd (at this point) but have not been to a meeting in about 7 months and have been inactive for probably 3-4 years now.we haven't lived near my parents for several years so they have been a little "in the dark" so to speak as to us being inactive but we kinda were given a bit of "lee-way" since 5 yrs.

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  Effervescent

  Your sister sure pulled out all the stops in that conversation- from threatening, guilt trips, blame, name calling... wow.

  With all that drama and hate, what would be the incentive for you to come back? I sure as hell wouldn't want to go back to people who are so quick to 'leave you for dead'.

  I don't think you ever get over the shock of seeing "Jehovah's Loving People" act like that though.

  Jeff- You don't need "skills" to live up here- just an appreciation for the simple life!