I'm pretty sure that's how old I was when baptized... of course at the urgings of my father.
If I knew then what I knew now...
13 years old boy has been baptized!
this month i went to a circuit assembly (north/west germany) to spy what is going on and too keep me up to date with teachings and jehovah's witnesses language.
after the assembly was over i just happened to see a father congratulating his child for being baptized.
I'm pretty sure that's how old I was when baptized... of course at the urgings of my father.
If I knew then what I knew now...
... Say you are guiding the flock but fail to mention it's right over a cliff!
i just got a major shock.
i can't believe the new levels of cruelty possible within families who are jws.. a friend on this board who i've known since i was a baby practically has managed to get me a picture of my little sister who i haven't seen for 8 years - the one who i've mentioned my dad said was working on the bethel quick build team.
the one who i've described my fears that she and my younger sister are staying single until armageddon.
Crumpet- I missed this the first time around, but I just wanted to say I feel for you! It's things like this that are such a shock to the system. You think you are moving along with your life quite well, dealing with the past issues and doing just dandy and then "whack!" you hit that brick wall of JW "love" again and you're emotionally right back where you started.
I had the same exact thing happen to me, although I found out about it alot quicker than you did. (I have family members that race eachother to spill the beans to other family members) It seemed to me at the time (after I calmed down) that this was just a game. They know that you're going to find out eventually, and this is just another outlet for them to make their point. I've found that theyll use any excuse to remind you that you're being shunned, in fact, they'll go out of their way to pour salt in your wounds. Personally, I think these games they play reveal a larger psychological issue they have with their own misery, anger and helplessness and having to drag dissenters down to their level. How dare you think for yourself and have a life anyways. For shame! Why can't you just be miserable and silent like us!
From reading your posts in the relatively short time Ive been here, you seem to be a very dynamic woman. More power to ya! You definatly were NOT the one who lost out in this situation!
did your parents hold you up to higher jw standards than they held themselves or force you to live up to things they never did if they were raised in the truth?.
i know when my mother was a teenager they used to watch bewitched all the time and no one took it seriously.
they never missed an episode.
I can't claim to be the perfect parent... and it's a hard job regardless, but I still harbor a lot of resentment towards my father and stepmother primarily based on their hypocrisy and using us to promote their own "godliness" to the congregation.
My stepmothers hypocracy didn't really have anything to do with the religion, although it gave her more excuses to lash out at her stepchildren. She was, and continues to be a bitter, meanspirited and pathetic human being who works really hard to convince everyone outside her household otherwise. I can remember a conversation I overheard my Dad having with my Grandma about her. "She went through a lot of abuse in her childhood so she wants to make sure these kids don't have to go through the same thing." Make me vomit whydontcha.
My Dad simply saw us children as a convenient tool to boost his ratings with the local Elders and get on the fast track to Elderhood. (Which he did) He never saw us as individuals, only little people to mold into ideal JWs to be a credit to him. The day he realized I would never come back to the congregation was the day he finally lost all intrest in me as his daughter.
I can remember the talks he used to give. They were usually family oriented, all about how to raise the perfect family and properly discipline your children "with love". He loved giving this illustration about a spring, and how if you squeeze it tightly and then let it go suddenly it will leap far away from you, but if you slowly release it, it will stay on your finger. It was supposed to illustrate how to slowly give your children freedom, and not tightly control them until the day they leave the house. I still laugh about that one. This coming from the guy who forbid me to do anything but breathe....
ok i just finished watching antwone fisher.
it's not the first time i've watched it.not even the second or third time.
i've seen it a lot.
I am a HUGE movie crybaby. If it has an emotional ending you can guarantee I'll be bawling like a baby.
The one that gets me everytime is actually the show "Extreme Home Makeover". I watch it every week and I'm pretty sure I've cried every time. Especially when there's children with disabilities... I pretty much cry through the whole show.
in our local sunday paper, there's a regular feature on how married couples met.
i've been touched by some of the stories.
i'm curious as to how you met your spouse.
I met my husband on a blind date set up by my sister. We went to see the movie "Valentine" and spent the whole movie laughing and making fun of it. We knew it was love when we both realized we could quote Monty Python lines. We saw each other off and on for about the next six months and then something finally clicked and I ended up moving from Anchorage to Fairbanks to be with him. If anyone's ever been to Fairbanks you KNOW that was love!!!
Best thing I ever did though, every one else thought I was nuts. He's the love of my life, my best friend and the best father ever!
i just returned home from the kingdom hall.
i am an elder.. after the meeting all the elders were called to the back room.
i thought this was an impromptu elders' meeting.
I guarantee from general personal experience that the "publishers" who complained don't have children.
are the members of the gb common knowledge amongst the rf?
i actually never knew the names until i came upon jwd, but are those members mentioned in the publications and is it only apostates that know about the two new members of the gb, cause i mentioned it to an active jw friend last night and she had no idea and wondered where i got that information.
i told her i couldn't remember where i read that.
Wikipedia has what I believe is a current list of GB members-
It's down a ways on that page. I didn't spend a lot of time looking, but when I did some searching the only lists I could find were on "apostate" or ministry sites.
what are some excuses used by jw's to avoid going in field service, that others didn't question or hold against the person?
Personally, the only excuse that would have flown for me to get out of it was perfuse bleeding from my eyeballs. I was never able to figure out how to fake it either...
I remember being really sick lots of times and my father dragging me out of bed to get ready for service.
It seemed the only excuse he or his peers would have accepted would be a broken limb (for the first couple weeks maybe) or a life threatening illness.
i was talking to an elder yesterday about how enjoyable it is to get away from civilization in remote wilderness areas, unlike the circus you see at places like yosemite natl.
park in california.
with dreamy eyes he mentioned how great it will be in the "new system", when "we can enjoy uncrowded conditions.".
Becha didn't know that paradise is going to look like George Lucas's Coruscant.
I wonder if they'll have to keep the lions in their high rise apartments? Do they make litter boxes that big?