Oh guys...consider the source. Most Christians don't even take this guy seriously
So true!
I've always considered him in the same category with Rev. Jesse Jackson in loving to hear himself speak.
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Pat Robertson tells town, "Don't expect God to help you"
by sir82 inhttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/9995578/
i thought evangelism was supposed to make god more appealing to people?
the irony is, most jws will point accusing fingers at this representative of babylon the grape, but not realize that their own message preached every saturday morning is essentially the same: "worship god our way, or don't come crying to us when armageddon comes"
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Effervescent
That you have to turn your back on beloved friends and family members in order to maintain allegence to the Organization.
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"It is finished"; Now What is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses
by Now What? injust thought that i would hop on real quick to share the news.
my fade was going very well, but i decided to end the charade.
i started feeling deceptive, letting them think i was still a good dub when i didn't believe anymore, so i decided to initiate a meeting with the elders.
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Effervescent
WOW! What an awesome testimony- congratulations!
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I just got fooled by a fake Paypal email
by DanTheMan ini just got an email that stated that another email address had been authorized to my paypal account, and that if this was not correct, to click the link below.. so (big mistake) i clicked the link.
i get a phony but convincing looking "paypal" page saying that the page had been removed, and to click the link below to go to the home page.. so i clicked that linkwww.paypal.com/someotherstuff, so i think i'm good to go here.
i log in, and then it takes me to a page where i am asked to give my credit card number as a "security measure".
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Hey thanks for the URL Twinflame.... I actually found quite a few toys to download!
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they might be dubs! please read and give your opinion!
by kittyeatzjdubs inseriously...i think some dubs are living across the street from me and matt.
i was talking to him about it last night and he was like, ''how the hell could you even know unless the told you?
1. tuesday evening i went to get something out of my car and i notice the mother and daughter walking out of the house.
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Go over there and say: "I sure do wonder what Gods plan is for mankind, I mean, look how bad things are in the world nowadays. I've been reading the Bible but I just can't understand it, I sure do wish there was some way to really truly know its meaning." Then see what they say.
Oh this is just CRUEL- I love it! LOL!
They'd probably wet themselves if she did that!
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FEELING VERY DEPRESSED, EMPTY. LIFE IS CONFUSING...
by stillAwitness inmeetings are dragging me down.
it sucks because i still live at home and have no choice but it has gotten to the point where i have left early at times just because i cannot stand to hear all the b.s from the platform.
how do i just keep doing what i have to do till i know i can leave?
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I don't think there are any easy answers to the spiritual crisis you are having. As others said, I also believe the answers are in your own heart, not from any pulpit or stage. For a JW, this is easier said than done, as you've been taught that you cannot rely on your own heart and mind to figure things out. But like any muscle... your free thinking abilities will become stronger with use and excersize, and I think you're on the right track... just give yourself time.
You mentioned you still live at home and this is the reason you still have to attend meetings. I can imagine there are financial reasons for you having to be there that are beyond your control. Maybe for your own sanity it would be best to sit down and map out your "escape" so to speak. Set realistic goals and milestones for yourself to work your way out of the house... moving as far away from this congregation as you can. With each milestone you can see progress toward freedom, and this may help put a positive spin on your outlook.
Good luck with everything.... really, you're doing better than you think- You're questioning, not just accepting!!!
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I just got fooled by a fake Paypal email
by DanTheMan ini just got an email that stated that another email address had been authorized to my paypal account, and that if this was not correct, to click the link below.. so (big mistake) i clicked the link.
i get a phony but convincing looking "paypal" page saying that the page had been removed, and to click the link below to go to the home page.. so i clicked that linkwww.paypal.com/someotherstuff, so i think i'm good to go here.
i log in, and then it takes me to a page where i am asked to give my credit card number as a "security measure".
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I know you feel silly for this happening, but really... thanks for sharing what happened. It's all too easy to forget that people are relentless in trying to steal from you sometimes. Thanks for the reminder.
I don't have antivirus on my computer either. I'm bad too! I do virus scans every week though by going here-
http://housecall60.trendmicro.com/en/start_corp.asp
It does both spyware and viruses now.
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I'm getting my first flu shot today.
by damselfly inso tell me about the flu shot.
will it really hurt?
dams
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Effervescent
Pretty much what Scully said....
I'm not a big fan of needles either, but after four children I've resigned myself to them. I got my flu shot two days ago, it was my first one so I didn't know what to expect either. The nurse warned I may get body aches (very mild flu like symptoms) in the first 24 hours, but I didn't have anything at all. I took some Ibuprofen when I got home and I was just fine. The needle was tiny and didn't hurt more than an small pinch.
So here's to hoping the shot works this year!
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Anyone experienced the private Kingdom Schools?
by Sheepish ini was a teacher for the first year of a newly organized "kingdom school", in 1977.
(i was young!
) this was a private school for jw's kids.
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Wow, I'm actually shocked to hear such a thing existed. I lived in Oregon my whole childhood and I'm fairly certain there were none there. Good thing- I couldn't imagine how I would have turned out with NO outside socialization!
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Unlearning
by Narkissos inthe experience of unlearning, i guess, is part of any human life, but is something we particularly have in common as xjws.
once upon a time we knew it all -- the right and the wrong things to think or to do -- and then we had to unlearn somehow.
give up beliefs, ideas, prejudices, attitudes, etc.. the discussions on this board suggest that we all had -- and have -- different ways or strategies in unlearning.
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I think that the process of "unlearning" or "relearning" will be different for everyone, depending on your temperment. For me, it was a matter of one word- "time". Even when I reached that one defining moment where I decided that there was more to life and faith than this... I still had those JW propaganda movies playing in the back of my mind for years. Many times I didn't even know I was still carrying over JW attitudes or thought processes. It took time (years) and gradual exposure to new ideas and giving myself room to explore new ideas and ways of thinking. I can't even tell you the year that I finally got rid of the last of the internal propaganda. It wasn't until I started regularly reading this board that I started realizing how far I had come.