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  Doctors and surgeons say no to blood transfusions

  by Mr Negative in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my mum recently told me that even surgeons won't have blood transfusions, but the common people don't get told this.

  i have also seen or heard others say that a bunch of doctors/health officials/surgeons were asked, at some point, if they would accept a blood transfusion and they all said no.

  is this true?

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  Interestingly it should not matter one single iota whether a blood transfusion is dangerous or totally safe. That is NOT the given reason for the ban on transfusions.

  Absolutely correct. I think we need to keep responding to jws with this line of reasoning. wts is using these fairy tales only because it lacks confidence that its own adherents will abide by it for doctrinal reasons alone.

  This has a subtle conspiracy theory inside it too--"Doctors themselves don't want blood, but they want to get us to take it." I had a great deal of experience with that and I was repeatedly told Satan is getting doctors to get us to take blood unnecessarily, just to threaten our chance for everlasting life.
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  At what point will there be more ex-JWs than active JWs?

  by NewYork44M in

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  2. friends

  given the flow out of the organization and the inability to find new recruits, there should be a tipping point where the ex's out number the actives.

  has there been any discussion related to this topic?.

  because many within the organization are not true believers and are in various stages of exit this calculation is some what complicated.

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  oranges ≠ apples

  Overall small decrease rate ≠ lack of massive hemorrhage of jws who were active prior to the failed 1975 prophecy

  End of the world prophecies are typically a very effective recruitment technique--that's why they're used in the first place, and then the failure of the prophecy is covered by revisionist tactics.

  http://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/statistics.php
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  "Ebola is not spread through the air" -- CDC. Yeah, right!

  by FatFreek 2005 in

  1. social
  2. current

  somehow, i don't have a warm fuzzy feeling when i keep hearing from the center of disease control, "ebola is not spread through the air ...".

  ever sneezed?

  the famous myth busters had a revealing show on the power of the sneeze anecdotally it has a velocity of some 35 miles per hour and travels a distance of some 30 feet.. ever traveled in the close confines of an air liner?

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  Well I guess I'll chime in, as the resident skeptic.

  Every time there is a new disease in the news, people think it's airborne and that's being covered up in a conspiracy. Happened with HIV too.

  Airborne is not the same as droplets. That means it's carried on dust in the air and you don't even have to be near an infected person to get it. If a disease is truly airborne, it spreads quickly. Ebola has been identified for about 40 years.

  And then there's droplets, which is not the same thing as airborne. You need to be near a person who coughs or sneezes a droplet of infected liquid. This is how TB is spread, for example. CDC isn't hiding the fact that droplet contamination can occur on surfaces; in fact, they are publicizing it.

  Is it possible an organism could evolve to be airborne? Possible, perhaps, but that hasn't happened. Many diseases have been around a lot longer and they haven't, either.

  It is terrible that this disease has such a high mortality rate, but it's great that it's not airborne.

  In all my years of working in healthcare, whenever a healthcare worker has gotten a non-airborne infection from a patient, there was a break in universal precautions, or equipment failure.

  This stuff is not unknown--we do know a lot about viruses.
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  Preterism

  by Chris Tann in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  when i started to do my research concerning ttatt, i started to see the scriptures in a different light.

  one thing i noticed is that when the epistles talk about the last days, christs presence, the ressurection to heaven; the writers were speaking specifically of their time, not some two thousand years later.

  even when jesus speaks of his presence and the kingdom being established, he was talking to his disciples of that time and what they were soon to expect.

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  Many of us were where you're at, xian. My advice is dedicate yourself to accepting the truth, no matter how uncomfortable it may be at first. Truth will set you free.

  The Bible does read as accurate historic information, not fanciful fiction.

  My goodness. Have you researched that? There's lots of inaccurate historical info in the Bible.

  There is evidence to support certain prophecies that were fulfilled.

  What evidence do you have that the Bible had a higher accuracy rate than anyone else who guessed about the future using vague predictions?

  What other religious book ,besides the Koran, has had such a life changing effect on humanity for thousands and thousands of years?

  We were taught that ethnocentric belief. The answer is several. But I'm not sure how relevant that is to its truthiness. Let's test that logic?

  What other website, besides Facebook, has had such a life changing effect on humanity? Therefore what it says is true.

  What other drink, besides water, has had such a life changing effect on humanity? Therefore it's holy.

  And then there's the narrow, cramped path.
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  Doctors and surgeons say no to blood transfusions

  by Mr Negative in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my mum recently told me that even surgeons won't have blood transfusions, but the common people don't get told this.

  i have also seen or heard others say that a bunch of doctors/health officials/surgeons were asked, at some point, if they would accept a blood transfusion and they all said no.

  is this true?

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  Where do they get this idea from

  Their asses.

  Look for an article by Kerry Louderback-Wood, The Tort of Misrepresentation.
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  Doctors and surgeons say no to blood transfusions

  by Mr Negative in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  my mum recently told me that even surgeons won't have blood transfusions, but the common people don't get told this.

  i have also seen or heard others say that a bunch of doctors/health officials/surgeons were asked, at some point, if they would accept a blood transfusion and they all said no.

  is this true?

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  Where do they get this idea from

  Their asses.

  Look for an article by Kerry Louderback-Wood, The Tort of Misrepresentation.
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  What would you do?

  by ctrwtf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so i travel alot for business and check into a hotel, start putting away my things and lo and behold in a bureau drawer, find a couple of wt's a couple of awake's and two tracts.

  1. throw them in the trash and forget about it.

  2. leave them where they lay and forget about it.. 3. leave a note for the housekeeper asking to lay off the cult recruitment.. 4. bring it to the attention of the management, and possibly get the housekeeper fired.. thanks for your input.

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  Rip before you throw them out. This will be cathartic for you and will prevent anyone from being poisoned by them.
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  Evolution isn't happening right now?

  by rebel8 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  woman: professor haldane, even given the billions of years that you say were available for evolution, i simply cannot believe it is possible to go from a single cell to a complicated human body with its trillions of cells organized into bones and muscle and nerves, a heart that pumps without ceasing for decades, miles and miles of blood vessels and kidney tubules, and a brain capable of thinking and feeling.

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  haldane: but madam, you did it yourself!

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  Woman : Professor Haldane, even given the billions of years that you say were available for evolution, I simply cannot believe it is possible to go from a single cell to a complicated human body with its trillions of cells organized into bones and muscle and nerves, a heart that pumps without ceasing for decades, miles and miles of blood vessels and kidney tubules, and a brain capable of thinking and feeling.

  Haldane : But Madam, you did it yourself! And it only took nine months.
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  Thanksgiving...

  by HowTheBibleWasCreated in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  columbus day in the us is thanksgiving in canada.

  nowpersonally i find this stupid and mornic since the tradion beihind the festival goes back to us ancestry bu so be it... (the us pbserves this a month later).

  the tradition is turkey, cranberries (why ?

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  Many ancient cultures had feast days before the holiday emigrated to the US.
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  Frieking Bethel Heavies/COs and their second rings!

  by lambsbottom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dude, every picture i see of any bethel heavies or gb members (a lot of cos also) have them wearing a second huge gold ring!

  this is a clear sign of "hey i'm a bigshot!

  " you just dont see that in interviews of celebrities or politicials.

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  hmmm....so much for tolerating diversity?