i've had this thought for quite a while and wonder if fits with the recent talk about the wts claiming that matt.
24:14 has been fulfilled.
my thought was this --- in the wake of the recent cutbacks at bethel, scaling back of literature, and other cost cutting measures, could the wts be preparing the r&f for the complete or massive reduction of literature that would normally be placed with "householders?
IMHO they will never ever stop the preaching work. They may cheapen the products peddled but they won't cease.
They need to keep the rank and file busy busy busy. Otherwise they'll begin to drift from center.
Less literature, lower quality literature (like tracts) and high pressure to place it all with interested ones before the end comes.
Not a bad analysis Jourles.
I mean come on, they have paper covered bibles now.
i have been trying to educate the people on this board about this and have been called a nut here is what cnn has to say please watch the three minute video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdxi0zclv_y.
What would the name of the newly formed country be?
My vote is for Cameo!
i hear tell that there will be yet another brochure campaign.
it will be in an upcoming km !
that is all i know.. i bet i just fell into some sorta trap but what the hell..
The WTS can be so predictable at times. If a tract campaign creates some buzz and invigorate some of the dubs then they reason, 'why not have a tract campaign every couple month?'
What they forget is that every new and exciting thing wears out sooner or later. Only this new and exciting thing will wear out the publishers too.
Soon they will be asking "what if we had a tract campaign, and nobody came?"
if you needed my background, this thread will tell it-.
http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/121888/1.ashx.
my wife recently asked me about not commenting at a wt study.. our discussion was the topic of this thread-.
Those are hard conversations to have. The anxiety, the pressure, the struggle not to alienate your mate but at the same time tell them where you stand and why you stand there. How much to say? How much emotion to show? All tough tough tough.
It sounds like you did just the right thing. You must know your wife well - good for you. Your relationship and communication will get you through this.
Good luck.
real help!
please no criticism and such that people seem to spew!.
i have not been to a bookstudy in a year or been door to door either.. been using travel and health of my wife and family (actually very true) but they're relentless!!!.
There are certain circumstances that make fading virutally impossible. If you live near a zealot relative, especially an elder father. If your spouse is a zealot and they seem unwilling to accept your fading status. You were very prominent in your local area.
If any of those things are true for you then you will have a tough road for fading. Remember, you were one of the faithful too. You would be worried sick about a lost sheep and would have done whatever you could to save someone from falling away.
My only advice is to lay low. As soon as you show any interest they'll try to get you to study; to build up your faith once again. Keep your head down and let time pass. In time the elders, friends and maybe even family will have new crises in the kingdom hall to deal with and you will become yesterdays news.
Good luck. It's never easy.
i went to my dad's house for christmas.
it was the first christmas we celebrated together since i was 5 years old.
it was my kid's and [freedomloverr's] very first christmas ever.. .
I am really sorry Ithinkisee.
Hopefully something you said will eventually sink in.
Good luck.
hi, im new here but have been looking at lots of web sites for exjw's and i can't seem to get any answer in what im looking for.. i have a bit of a delemia i am df and my dad (jw) is getting remarried to a jw in march and i am wanting to go but the thing is i haven't been to a kh for a very long time and where they are getting married is the one that i grew up in and for this not sure where i am to sit.
do i have the right to sit in the front row or do i have to treat it like a normal meeting?.
can anyone shed any light on this?.
Welcome helncon.
Sounds like your dad has been more fair than most relatives. Good for you and him. It also sounds like he may need you more and more as his marriage gets under way.
Good luck.
you guys, help me out here please!.
if you read my post about my dad, you understand why i am a bit nervous.
he is calling now.
I'm really sorry for your situation. I feel for you.
Whatever you say, try to remember to frame the overall statement(s) with the following structure in mind:
1. An action
2. A feeling
3. A need.
For example: Dad, when you XXXXX it makes me feel XXXXXX and I need you to XXXXXX.
Be kind, clear, compassionate and direct.
Good luck. Remember, you live next door to your parents; some of us live with this pressure from our spouse in the same house.
so i was thinking - if i don't da myself and they don't df me, am i doomed forever to this limbo called "fade?
" when do i stop worrying about "what if they find out?
" when will they (if they saw me) just think of me as someone they knew, rather than "one of their flock" - even when they know i'm inactive?
If you have an active spouse who isn't happy that you've left the WTS your fade may never be over. The elders can't forget about you if your wife and kids show up at every meeting - alone.
The WTS has stated that if someone isn't viewed by the community as a dub then it wouldn't be necessary to take judicial action for wrongdoing. How long this takes and whether someone can ever attain it is up to each individual body of elders.
I've known some who were out for 15 years get df'd for something. I've seen others who were only out a year or so get away with some serious sinning.
there's an interesting dicsussion going on in channelc about the origins of the star of bethlehem.. "the wt continues to teach that the star was in fact a light from satan, who was seeking to kill the child jesus.
what i noted from actually reading the account, is that there is no justifiable proof from scripture, that what the wt teaches about that light being from satan, is true.".
....... and i have to concur.
From my reading of the bible I don't see that the star moved at all until after the magi saw Herod.
It could logically be argued that they went to Jerusalem because that is where a newborn king would be located. Plus the Persians and Romans weren't exactly best friends and if the delegation was large then stopping in Jerusalem to ensure that the local leader knew of their presence in Judea would have been wise.
It all seems so positive when I read the scriptures themselves. Not negative and evil.
