i am not sure if this has been already brought up but i got a glimpse at the feb 07 kingdom ministry.
the watchtower leaders seem to be convinced that the mechanics of tract campaigns to push numbers are a success.
another one will be started in mid-march to announce the jw memorial.
I'm impressed - it's only mid-December and you've already seen the Feb 07 KM. I like it.
The WTS is no different than many popular tv shows.
As ratings decline they all try predictable stunts to maintain their status.
Hopefully we'll be looking back one day and all decide when the WTS jumped the shark.
These tract campaigns will rally the troops, but if they begin to seem to be a regular part of the ministry the troops interest will die down.
i know of jws that celebrate "family day" at this time of year.
i have asked these jw about where they got the term "family day" was it from the watchtower?
they seem to deny the watchtower had ever mentioned "family day", but i can sense they are trying to hide something here.
My family had a family day almost each year.
That was multiple decades ago :)
Unofficial way to make the kids feel good and not so left out. My parents were convinced that if they didn't supplement the holiday stuff with their own fun family things us kids would leave the truth. hahahahahaha - here I am anyway.
I loved family day.
i just could not believe it when i stumbled across this forum recently.
i was actually doing research for my dad who wanted to see the world's viewpoint of the failed 1975 prophecy.
he came into the truth less than three years ago and though my mom has been a witness since she was a teenager she never spoke of that particular time period to him.
Welcome Elinor,
I appreciate the frank and open way you expressed your feelings.
I too had the same roller coaster of emotions.
This board helped me more than I can say.
Some of the best friends I"ve ever had are on this board - people who let me be me and don't judge.
does anyone have a scan of the new blood card released in the us?.
i'm dying to know if the us bethel is asking for local elders or liasion committee to have access to a person personal medical records?.
That is not the current card.
The current card in the US came out in January 2005. It does not request the privilege of viewing your medical records.
There was no new card for '06 or '07. The 2005 card is good indefinitely, or until the jw changes his conscience on something he filled out.
I'll scan one in when I get a chance if someone else hasn't done it already. although I'm sure there is a current one on the board somewhere.
i just read a post today that caught my attention, and gave me an idea.. name off some scriptures the society rarely or never quotes and the subject they pertain to.. job 1, 1-3 and job 3, 1-5, birthdays..
jgnat,
there are plenty of wt articles on the thief on the cross. They just change the location of a comma and voila! paradise isn't today after all.
about a week ago i had my little meeting with "the bobs" (yuk yuk), and i got the whole thing digitally recorded.
it's available online, along with a written transcript here...
http://www.ichthusstudios.org/cults/jw/
Gutsy move. I congratulate you on making the recording. Although it sickens me to hear it.
After listening to the tape I will admit that you didn't sound very sincere to me. You sounded as if you were too prepared and too callous to be helped.
It is apparent to me while listening to the elders talk that they recognized this right away.
Welcome to the board. I hope I never have to make such a recording.
ive just collected my 6 year old son from school.
he sat in the back of the car and told me about a little girl from the year above him who has to leave her classroom and sit in his due to christmassy things going on.
my youngster remarked "she doesnt believe in christmas.
I had to sit in the principal's office for each holiday celebration and all the birthdays.
Sometimes they'd put a chair in the hallway outside the classroom. Imagine sitting there at 6 years old and hearing all your friends whooping it up and you're just slumped down in your chair feeling sorry for yourself.
A few kids made fun of me, but most just didn't understand. When asked why I didn't celebrate I took the easy way out and said my parents wouldn't let me. I hated it being different. I dreaded holiday time. As I got older it became more and more embarrassing to be so different. I would usually miss some school days around the holidays.
I know my parents were only trying to do what they thought was right. And even with that they also tried to ease the pain of being different when they could.
One teacher would wrap a piece of birthday cake up for me so I could eat it later; after the birthday. My mom would keep it for me until the next day so I could eat it after the birthday was over. Pharisaic? yes. But, I'm glad I got to have it.
ok so im still talking to this jw over myspace, and i seem to have hit a stump.
hello again, just thought id message you to see if you got my last message about this quote, as ive been having problems with myspace at the moment, my apoligies if you have already recieved it.
" the time is at hand, page 101 (1908 edition).
Ask him this:
When Jesus sent the helper to his apostles and said it would be with them until the end of the system of things what did he mean?
Did he mean it would disappear at some point only to be sent again at 1919? or 1914?
If he didn't mean that then why didn't God's directed organization, of which russell was the faithful and discreet slave, have god's holy spirit and get things right?
ok so im still talking to this jw over myspace, and i seem to have hit a stump.
hello again, just thought id message you to see if you got my last message about this quote, as ive been having problems with myspace at the moment, my apoligies if you have already recieved it.
" the time is at hand, page 101 (1908 edition).
There are other things after 1919 that you can show him. Highlight the 1925 date. Show him the text from the talk and/or "Millions Now Living Will Never Die" which talks about 1874 and 1925. I know the millions talk was given prior to 1919 but the book came out in 1920 and subsequent wt and golden age articles reprinted the text and restated the 1925 date.
i've read so many posts from the men on this forum.
how many of you are are willing to defy the society, and defend your wives, sister, and/or daughters in the face of this religion?.
just a question not a threat.. r. .
Why oh why do I feel the need to respond. I'll never know.
I do and will continue to defend the women in my life. I would lay my life down willingly for my family - regardless of their sex.
That being said, my wife believes that if she commits certain sins she is likely to die at armageddon. If someone from her religion reminds her of this I don't personally view it as a threat.
In fact I am hopeful that having ones in the congregation act like asses and saying things like this will help wake her up to their 'love'.
