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  any former elders have an answer for me?

  by helricha in

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  2. friends

  so i was df'd for living with/having sex with my boyfriend for 3 years and then not ending the relationship and moving out within the week between the first meeting of confession and the second meeting where they tell me what their decision was.

  i did move out 3 months later with the intent of being reinstated over a period of time.

  well i couldn't cut off the relationship with my bf even though i did move out, so i married him after a year and then 2 weeks after that i slept with someone else.

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  TheListener

  You have a pm.
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  new public edition of the WT

  by loosie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ok i have about 4 friends who don't know that i am out of the org.

  because there is 3000 miles between us and the subject has not come up.. well one of them has emailed me a jpg copy of each page of the public edition of the wt.. i was feeling a little ornery, and i replied back.

  i said wow having a private copy and then a public copy of the wt makes me feel like a secret agent.

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  TheListener

  You could reply this way:

  "You're right. Sometimes there are dificult things to understand in the WT. I'm glad, like the Society says, that the Bible is simple and designed for everyone."

  Good luck.
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  I may lose my wife because of Disfellowshipping

  by freedomfighter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  have only been out of the organisation for 2 months and the wounds still run deep.

  particularly hard is the fact that my wife and 8 yr old son are now divided in our beliefs.

  we cannot go out as a family with our old friends like we use to.

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  TheListener

  I'm really sorry to hear about your situation.

  Perhaps explaining to your wife that you're the same man she has always loved will somehow help her to understand.

  If I were you, though, I would read Steve Hassan's books. He can help you learn how to deal effectively with the cult personality.

  Good luck
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  Any experiences dealing with Jw's and Barbara's Pedo CD?

  by AK - Jeff in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  just curious if anyone has spoken with any jw's who have seen the cd?.

  jeff .

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  TheListener

  Sorry to hear that your conversation went that way Skeeter. However, you never know what is going on behind the witness facade.

  What you said may resonate with your father at some point.

  I've found that seeds I didn't even know I planted with my wife bear fruit at the oddest times.
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  Lowly publishers can now attend international conventions

  by unbeliever in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i don't know if this has been posted yet but my mom told me that there was a letter from crooklyn that publishers can now attend international conventions.

  before only the pioneers, elders, etc could attend.

  she said that there was a tremendous amount of excitement among the publishers that they now have the "privilege" of attending.

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  TheListener

  The last round of international conventions were in 2006? (maybe 2007, announced in 2005).

  Anyway, the letters to the congregations began with elders who had been serving 10 years or more could apply.

  The next letter asked for any elder who had been serving for 5 years as well as pioneers.

  The next letter asked for any elder and pioneer.

  Now, they've decided that instead of embarrassing themselves by slowly lowering the requirements they would just open it up to any approved publishers.

  I distinctly remember my wife and I snickering how funny it seemed that for a several month period letter after letter was read which lowered the attendance requirements. (remember, snickering is a big deal for her because she's a dyed in the wool dub).

  Note: anyone can attend the conventions, they are open to the public, however, if you are a foreign delegate you won't be able to travel with the approved dub groups. Also, if you go to just any old international convention you would need to ensure your language will be supported. Even with conventions in the US they don't want dubs to randomly travel to any old DC they choose. The WTS has stated several times that dubs should notify their congregation secretary that they will not be attending the DC they are assigned to and which one they plan on attending. For food and room requirements plus ensuring enough seats are available for all planned to attend a particular convention (BS BS BS BS BS BS).
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  Just a little Update...(with pictures)

  by RichieRich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so today i was thinking... and i haven't posted here in quite some time!

  i came and started reading through some recent posts... and boy have i missed a lot.

  the whole trevorgate thing... and danny haszard... whew.

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  TheListener

  Thanks Richie. I appreciate you answering me so quickly.
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  Just a little Update...(with pictures)

  by RichieRich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so today i was thinking... and i haven't posted here in quite some time!

  i came and started reading through some recent posts... and boy have i missed a lot.

  the whole trevorgate thing... and danny haszard... whew.

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  TheListener

  I'm glad you checked in Richie. I always wonder how you're doing. You look great and your girlfriend does too. It's obvious that you're in a much happier place now. Alright!!!!

  Some questions:

  The tongue split? I've never seen that. Can you wiggle each side separately or do they work together? Can you feel or taste food in the split part?

  How big will you make your ear lobe?

  Does the nose ring make it hard to blow your nose? (I know, gross, but I've never had anyone else to ask).
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  Thanks for the support, but MY HUSBAND and THE BROTHERS WANT ME BACK

  by AWAKE&WATCHING in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the hell with that.

  my husband came to my store today telling me that we are so close to the end now, he can tell by all the changes in meetings.

  you know the kool-aid edition and time frames etc.

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  ((((((A&W))))))

  What you're doing takes great strength. I'm glad you find comfort here. We may be supporting you but you are still doing the hard work on the front lines of your life. Stay strong and always know we'll be here for you.

  I've heard the same talk about the end being closer because of the changes. I was even guilty of the same type of thinking while I was in. It just shows the importance dubs place on the WTS and not on the Bible.
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  I have found something truly horrific.

  by cultswatter in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  this is big, very big.

  bigger that pascal petite(well, just as big), bigger than the demonic hand or the rams head in the live forever book!!.

  to present this properly, i will need a scan of the page in the live forever book where the thief is running from the police clutching a bag of goods.

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  TheListener

  Maybe he robbed a fortune teller? I couldn't tell from the broken window in the picture if he robbed a jewelry store or something else.
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  circuit assembly

  by bonnzo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  had a new to me explanation of something i've questioned about matt 24:45-47. i, along with some here, wondered why the "slave" in matthew is singular when the wtbts says it has to be a "class" because no one person could live long enough to be the slave.

  personally, i've wondered why it couldn't be each person individually, but the d.o.

  says there is precedent.

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  TheListener

  Sounds like you've had some nice discussions Bonnzo. Keep up the good work.

  I have heard the Isaiah to Matthew explanation before. It does not make sense. There is no biblical precedent for linking the two together. If you are really intererested I would look at Isaiah in other translations and in a Hebrew interlinear to see other ways of phrasing the verse in question. As usual they scour the bible to find any verse that will support their argument.