Posts by slimboyfat

I seriously doubt there will be another year of positive growth in Britain. But I also doubt whether they'll continue publishing the figures in any case.

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Independent Catalonia

by mikeflood in

it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".

it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.

since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.

slimboyfat

They should have allowed the Catalonian people a democratic vote on their future. What happened to the right to self determination?

If Spain remains a unitary state now, it comes on the back of violence, confiscated ballots, intimidation, political arrests. That is surely unsustainable. If it is maintained by force then it's a darker Europe and a darker world.

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Independent Catalonia

by mikeflood in

it's a deja vu from matthew..."for nation shall rise against nation.....".

it seem that periods of instability occur around the world periodically.

since the arab spring to brexit and trumpism people want change.

slimboyfat

An independent Catalunya would never be admitted to the EU - who would they trade with, Cuba?

It’s a disgrace that Spain has not been expelled or at least censured by the EU for their actions: assaulting voters, confiscating ballots, arresting political opponents. People should think very carefully before giving this a free pass just because they think that the people seeking sovereignty are “idiots”. Who knows when the state may think you’re an “idiot” for seeking some democratic goal.

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Some more background information on Geoffrey Jackson

by Listener in

born in 1955 jacko was baptized at 13 years of age in 1968.his life story, printed in the august 2015 watchtower doesn't state the year in which he married, it's fairly general when talking about it.

hmmm, i wonder why?i've come across a recording of an interview with jacko at a hall dedication in another part of the us in 2009 which provides some further information.he married his first wife, jenny, in 1974 at the grand old age of 19. no wonder they didn't want to print it in the watchtower.unfortunately his first wife, jenny, was diagnosed with cancer in 1999.in 2003 jacko was sent a letter from the gb stating he was being transferred to hq and his wife would be given appropriate work.

he initially didn't know why they were being called to hq as he felt they were being very productive in their fijian paradise, he states that they brought 75 people into the truth.

slimboyfat

Where is this talk is it online?

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Some more background information on Geoffrey Jackson

by Listener in

born in 1955 jacko was baptized at 13 years of age in 1968.his life story, printed in the august 2015 watchtower doesn't state the year in which he married, it's fairly general when talking about it.

hmmm, i wonder why?i've come across a recording of an interview with jacko at a hall dedication in another part of the us in 2009 which provides some further information.he married his first wife, jenny, in 1974 at the grand old age of 19. no wonder they didn't want to print it in the watchtower.unfortunately his first wife, jenny, was diagnosed with cancer in 1999.in 2003 jacko was sent a letter from the gb stating he was being transferred to hq and his wife would be given appropriate work.

he initially didn't know why they were being called to hq as he felt they were being very productive in their fijian paradise, he states that they brought 75 people into the truth.

slimboyfat

Loraini looks older than 34 in this picture. I'd say mid 40s.

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/magazines/ws20150815/let-many-islands-rejoice/

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Faced with the reality of mortality

by stuckinarut2 in

how have you all coped with facing the reality of our mortality?.

most of us were raised to firmly believe we would never get old or die... so here we are now having to face the reality that are getting older... we are going to die.. sometimes it really pisses me off that we were never helped to comprehend this most basic of facts.

we were given a utopian dream as a "fact", and hence never taught how to face our inevitable futures.... thoughts?.

slimboyfat

It's strange but I think I have better grounds for believing consciousness will continue now, than I did when I was a believing JW.

Like I have said elsewhere (to general derision and lack of engagement) if existence is comprised purely of material substances and forces, then we are immortal in a sense. The sense being that, if such properties comprise who we are in toto, then the extension or recapitulation of who we are is merely a technical question that will be solved one day. If there is a God then he could already solve it if he wishes. If there is no God then intelligent life will progress to the point where it meets the challenge itself. Either way we face immortality. If materialism is incorrect then that opens up yet more possibilities. But all lead back to immortality.

I understand that death may be the permanent end of consciousness. I don't honestly know how that could be the logical outcome. But I must acknowledge that since my understanding and knowledge are limited, it is possible there is a scenario which I cannot understand or do not have enough knowledge to apprehend.

Conversely the alternative to mortality is also a bit frightening, What does the universe or God have in store for us?

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Asking for help with wife

by Are you serious in

hello everyone, my wife wants nothing to do with my awakening.

every time i try explaining something she tells me she doesn't want to hear it.

i believe she's afraid of learning something she's not ready for.

slimboyfat

Maybe aak: “have you ever thought that life outside the JWs might be better?” And listen to the answer.

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252 Congregations have closed in Germany since 2015

by LevelThePlayingField in

this is a video from down with the tower.

it's excellent.

enjoy.. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0lvvy2qurm.

slimboyfat

Japan has lost hundreds of congregations. Has there ever been an explanation for that?

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Is There Any Thing That Would Make A JW SERIOUSLY Question Their Religion?

by minimus in

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friends

i realize that jehovah’s witnesses have been dumbed down for long time now.

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still, i think there must be something that would make them really question their beliefs, even their life.. i think that if witnesses were told they could take blood or that disfellowshipping was unloving, they might stop and take a hard look at everything they have sacrificed their lives for.. i know the organization has muddled these subjects before but the i think even die hard witnesses might start to second guess the governing body..

slimboyfat

In my experience the main thing that will make JWs reconsider their beliefs is a personal injustice. I have not really experienced any injustice. Well nothing major. Which is probably why I haven’t left.

But I’ve always been a curious person. So the idea that apostate information was “no go” was never a flyer for me. If it’s the truth then it’s the truth and it can withstand criticism. The idea that there is some information you shouldn’t access just seemed like such nonsense.

But most JWs display an astonishing lack of curiosity about their own religion. It always amazes me. I can’t figure out what is going on psychologically when intelligent JWs refuse to consider counter arguments. Is it overconfidence? Is it fear? I can’t understand it.