Posts by slimboyfat

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Selloff Hinted At Assembly

by thedepressedsoul in

the last talk at the assembly made an interesting statement, "we can show faith by following direction if we're asked to move to another kingdom hall for better use of dedicated christian funds".

this statement has everyone talking.

i spoke to multiple individuals and they heard the same thing at different assembly's.. i know they have been "evaluating" all kingdom halls the last year or two.

slimboyfat

It would be fascinating if they did this locally, just to see who would bother moving, and who would just stop attending.

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How We Felt When We Discovered TTATT!

by The Searcher in

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slimboyfat

My initial reaction: you can't take away my mumpsimu5!

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The Debate Is Over...

by JW_Rogue in

for years theologians and historians have researched who the historical person known as jesus was and how much of the biblical account could be verified.

countless books have been written going into great detail.

this has been a controversial subject with some even claiming that jesus never existed.

Ha ha that's so true. I saw this article. It goes nowhere near touching the contemporary debate on the issue. Or the debate at any time for that matter. It's just a collection of vaguely relevant quotes. Sad to think many JWs don't even realise how inadequate it is.

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Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians, why do so many ex JW's deny this?

by nicolaou in

jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.

they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.

they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?

slimboyfat

Another reason outsiders and former members may dispute the name "Christian" for JWs, beyond just doctrine, has more to do with the everyday sense of the word "Christian" as meaning a good or a kind person.

In situations like where JWs allow a family member to die without blood. Outsiders might remark that it doesn't sound very "Christian" to them. Same with shunning, outsiders who hear about cutting off children might say, "and they call themselves Christian?"

But then I suspect we get closer to the heart of what the OP may be about, as certain vehement atheists might resent the equation of Christian with kindness or goodness, and therefore regard it as simply a label for a collection of superstitions they regard as equally applicable to JWs as to other groups. Which is okay as a perspective but we should be honest about the motivation and intention of the gesture. It's not intended as an inclusive gesture toward JWs but rather an attempt to bundle all professed "Christians" together and to disregard their own distinctions about what constitutes a Christian.

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Jehovah's Witnesses ARE Christians, why do so many ex JW's deny this?

by nicolaou in

jehovah's witnesses accept jesus as christ, the son of god.

they try, in their own way, to live by his teachings and imitate him.

they pray, read the bible and meet together regularly for worship.. i won't minimise any of the harm and damage they cause but for the life of me, i can't see how anyone can credibly deny that they are christians.. why do so many former jws have a problem with this?

slimboyfat

Firstly it works both ways, as JWs don't accept others are Christians either. But each for different reasons.

Other Christians generally do not recognise JWs as Christians because they don't accept the Nicene creed, which many perceive to mark the boundary of what can and cannot be considered Christian. It might seem a narrow definition, but admittedly it is broad enough to include hundreds of denominations all over the world and the vast majority of those who self-identity as Christian.

JWs on the other hand reject others as Christians not only because of doctrine but also because those outside the organisation do not recognise the unique authority of the religious leaders of their own church. So even if another group held all the same doctrines as JWs, but rejected the Governing Body, it is doubtful whether JWs would recognise them as Christian. In this respect they resemble the Catholic Church, although even the Catholic Church has shown some interest in ecumenism.

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Dinner plans canceled because "I need to talk to the elders". Huh?

by Darkknight757 in

so this past week the wife and i have received several phone calls and text messages from our old hall.

we were also invited out to dinner to catch up with some old friends.

an hour before dinner this guys wife messaged my wife and said that she "can't wait for tonight!!

slimboyfat

I can't believe how understanding you are. It's one thing to decide that you are suddenly unsavoury characters and that they need the elders ok before they eat with you - quite another to decide this ten minutes into the dinner engagement. Rude is not the word.

That's how any normal person would look at the situation. But from a JW point of view, if you are "bad association" then you must know it yourself, because it's like a real fact about you, rather than something the elders simply made up. And if it's a real fact about you that you are "bad association", and you attempted to associate with them despite your bad status. Well in that case the fault is all yours. In fact you owe them an apology for attempting to associate with them and putting them in this terribly awkward situation!

That's if you have a proper theocratic appreciation of the situation.

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Dinner plans canceled because "I need to talk to the elders". Huh?

by Darkknight757 in

so this past week the wife and i have received several phone calls and text messages from our old hall.

we were also invited out to dinner to catch up with some old friends.

an hour before dinner this guys wife messaged my wife and said that she "can't wait for tonight!!

slimboyfat

After standing you up he has the cheek to say: "you need to talk to the elders"?

You should have said: "you need to have a talk with yourself mate".

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Trump supporters want to repeal 19th amendment

by keyser soze in

seriously, you can't make this shit up.

and these same people will accuse hillary of rigging the election after she wins:.

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/trump-supporters-repeal-19th-amendment-article-1.2828571.

slimboyfat

Things are going bad for Trump if even Farage is throwing him under a bus.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/video_and_audio/headlines/37668909

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Dinner plans canceled because "I need to talk to the elders". Huh?

by Darkknight757 in

so this past week the wife and i have received several phone calls and text messages from our old hall.

we were also invited out to dinner to catch up with some old friends.

an hour before dinner this guys wife messaged my wife and said that she "can't wait for tonight!!

slimboyfat

The most annoying thing is these people probably consider themselves righteous for behaving this way. As if it is a merit to treat other people like dirt in the service of some undefined rule and associated shunning.

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Extreme rules on Dating – is this for all congregations?

by Bonnie_Clyde in

just found out that in the congregation we used to attend there are two young brothers, both are sons of elders and recently engaged to girls in neighboring congregations.

instructions are that they may not sit together at assemblies or meetings.

but get this….they can’t even ride in the same car even if their parents are also in the car.

slimboyfat

Sounds like more than just strict rules. Maybe the parents don't approve of the choices.