Posts by rmt1
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21If all ''faders'' abruptly left the Watchtower and made no effort to hide the reasons why, what affect, if any, do you think it would make on the congregations?
by ThomasCovenant inwhen you're part of a lovely big group of people who all seem to be happy in their beliefs, it's easier to quell your own doubts.
if i was the only person left in the congregation who still went on the door to door work, because every body else had stopped going , having said out loud what most think, ''it's a waste of time'', how long do you think before i too would cease going door to door?.
i know from my own perspective that having lots of fellow witnesses around me, steered me into making life changing decisions.
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Jehovahs Witnesses live in a " RELIGIOUS TOTALITARIAN " regime
by smiddy inno wonder they have a very high turnover of dis-satisfied members , a high number of suicides compared to mainstream religions , a high number of phsychological disorders among members .. totalitarianism is something we normally associate with political regimes , communism , fascism ,etc.etc.. it should also apply to reigions that have "high control "strategys , that keep the members cocooned in their beleif system.. discouraging members from getting information outside their control.
as though information is wrong .
you should be able ,using your god given brain to decide whether information you receive is beneficial or not .
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Is the suicide metric documented?
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If all ''faders'' abruptly left the Watchtower and made no effort to hide the reasons why, what affect, if any, do you think it would make on the congregations?
by ThomasCovenant inwhen you're part of a lovely big group of people who all seem to be happy in their beliefs, it's easier to quell your own doubts.
if i was the only person left in the congregation who still went on the door to door work, because every body else had stopped going , having said out loud what most think, ''it's a waste of time'', how long do you think before i too would cease going door to door?.
i know from my own perspective that having lots of fellow witnesses around me, steered me into making life changing decisions.
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Prisoners Dilemma. It would be interesting if sufficient network developed where faders could have the opposite of a flashmob. That is, a flash-fade, or a flash-absense. Later, enhance the network of faders with a website where scores are tallied of how many meetings ditched, how many service days ditched, etc. Use technology.
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A new hero is on the job : Meet APOSTA GIRL
by Watchtower-Free inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9ytlreojyc.
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from "roguepixel100" on youtube.
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As much as "a very small handful" of ex-JWs, who are filled with an unimpeachable righteous indignation, would love to act out in this fashion, and knock the teeth out of a few smarmy ass-hats, the video -by itself- does not adequately serve its occasional or unwitting visitor with very much (any) explication, establishment, lists of grievances, documentation, etc. The parties who call it abusive don't have much choice unless they go back 40 years, get born as a JW preeeee-millenium, live in that hell hole, get sick to the marrow of the bullshit, and have their very own desire to knock heads together. But you can trust CEOs or content providers will not go to those great lengths to understand the very human motivations behind the video.
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Intervention of God in Babel and why allow suffering explication contradiction
by trackregister99 inhello.. jehovah witnesses teaches that adam d ecided autonomous sovereignty and god choose let time elapse for demonstrate whether government is better: human government or divine government, allowing many suffering and blood in thousand years.. .
but, the human government received an intervention of god when he confused the languages ?
?at babel.
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The burden of belief in JW-scale assaults on common sense scales with Moore's Law.
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AGM "The Governing Body appeared so human, I enjoyed them taking the time to speak to us!"
by AuntConnie ina higher education is of no value when you allow yourself to slowly be baked in to the cult.
the remarks above came from a sister who has a college degree in social science and biology and loved logic and critical thinking.
we at jwn sometimes assume a higher education might help people see through the smoke and mirrors which did not happen in this case.
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I would contend that the wisest, most detached scientific mind can relapse into superstition, because that is the natural state of the human brain. Perhaps there are alternate theories. People can hit hard times ontologically where what they knew or thought they knew doesn't answer the new question. People can hit mental, emotional, spiritual potholes, be in the wrong place at the wrong time. To say that JWs are opportunistic predators that seek out the mentally, emotionally, spiritually weak, or predatory salesmen that seek out the socioeconomically disadvantaged, doesn't cover it. Any chink in your armor of rationality is a gaping invitation to be exploited.
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I take exception to using the word "Godless". It yeilds to the adversary the rhetorical footing and appearance of possessing the high ground, and the speaker having a lack. Dialectic bias a priori. Like a kangaroo court already signed, sealed and delivered. Those who insist on a putative deity are at the very bottom of the stack of independently repeatable, reproducible and verifiable evidence.
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AGM "The Governing Body appeared so human, I enjoyed them taking the time to speak to us!"
by AuntConnie ina higher education is of no value when you allow yourself to slowly be baked in to the cult.
the remarks above came from a sister who has a college degree in social science and biology and loved logic and critical thinking.
we at jwn sometimes assume a higher education might help people see through the smoke and mirrors which did not happen in this case.
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I contend that religion is hardwired in the homo sapien, as an absolutely indispensible evolutionary survival mechanism. Superstition is sufficient to preserve the soul alive, but it will not build pyramids. For pyramids and the technological advances required to handle large numbers, you need religion. Later in history... It is only through discipline and attention and a degree of safety from a large number of dangers that one can calm the survival instinct and accomplish true advancement in knowledge through a scientific unassuming detachment. She reflects humans in their primitive superstitious state.
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All JW Elders World Wide...A Call To Action!
by bjc2read inthis just posted on a jw reform board at this link:.
http://meletivivlon.com/2013/10/13/remember-those-who-instructed-you/#comment-4950.
see acts 20:26-28.. if we do not speak out now, at this time, then no elder in any body of elders from around the world, will be able to repeat the words of paul, with a clear conscience.
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Protestantism. Need a Luther, a door, a nail, a pen, a paper, and some grievances. Where can we possibly find some grievances at this hour?
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So you want to leave the Jehovah's Witnesses?
by Watchtower-Free inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ynxo8nj-jpo.
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from roguepixel100 on youtube.
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You will be placed on their version of a terrorist watch list if you cite or draw inspiration or parallels from the founding member(s) who rebeled or in some way stuck it to the Man. Citing, quoting, leveraging, imitating or borrowing from Jesus in non-sanctioned ways is eating their lunch. There is a special designated area set aside behind fencing and at some distance from anyone else where you can practice your freedom of speech about Jesus. This is covered under the Berean Amendment to make sure such and such is so. Act now, for supplies of this freedom of speech are limited.