It's a slow motion train wreck of a train loaded with people, a very long train, and they will all crash, traincar by traincar, in slow motion, and they will all see the traincar ahead of them crash, and they will all have time to get out of their own traincar if they wanted to, but they will not, and their traincar will crash, and they will be no more, and the train will keep coming, and crashing, and there's not much any one person can do about it. This is a function of the human species. A certain percentage of the human species will have the bad luck to get born in, get stuck in a mental, emotional, spiritual ditch at the wrong time, make eye contact, swallow the hook of fake smiles, ignore the red flags from doorstep to podium to swimming pool. I would candidly say that x% of humanity is just plain stupid, and they naturally fall into this potential well of JW promises. But that's not it. I would absolutely say that x% of humanity are more dependent on their social lives and connections than they are on the freedom to think and speak and act as they would. This slow motion train wreck will continue before your eyes for at least another century if not more. There is simply not enough instant communication between n^n humans to avert this social dependency. Millions of newborns into this cult will die in this cult of old age and natural causes.
Posts by rmt1
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29Any proof that more JW's are leaving in greater numbers then before?
by Crazyguy inor is it just wishful thinking on our parts?.
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Absolute Proof the Watchtower and Governing Body are from God!
by AuntConnie in.
throwing a bone to my fellow jehovah's witnesses needing help defending the teaching god picked the watchtower back in 1919. just trying to make your life easier with a simple explanation, no more complex doctrines, ok.. http://witforjesus.org/images/jwarticles/jwparadox.jpg.
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Flow chart showing the wheels within wheels of Jehovah's ever-onward moving chariot. Of course this dollar engine is not 100% efficient. During its cycle to pull in dollars from its rank and file and push those dollars to real estate and stock market investments and pedophile lawsuits, it also causes many more dollars to be burned up in massive overheads, inefficiencies, opportunity costs like field service, gasoline, meals, meeting nights, weekend mornings, driving to conventions, hotel costs, etc, compounded by attaining on average little competitive earning power. A simpler solution would be to just tithe at 10% and give up mandatory field service, mandatory meetings, mandatory conventions.
http://hyperphysics.phy-astr.gsu.edu/hbase/thermo/carnot.html
Does anyone have a good metric for how much $$ / %monthly income JWs lose in these overheads and inefficiencies? I bet they'd agree to a tithe.
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Never Become Enraged with Jehovah (tomorrow's WT Study)....pure vomit
by raymond frantz innever become enraged against jehovah.
(watchtower study 7-13 october).
paragraph 4.
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Whoever's ahead of the curve should coin or formulate a theorem, axiom, principle, rule of thumb or some other widely distributable metric that for such and such contexts, that the reader is advised to beware that not all appearances of "Jehovah" in print are actual references to the hypothetical Western monotheistic religious deity.
The Inner Party used Big Brother for any and all purposes to retain power, and counted for 2% of the population.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inner_Party
2% of, what, 8 million?, is 160,000. So if there were 160,000 JWs in positions of high authority to lord it over the eight million, that would meet the disparity of power in this fictional book. 8 JWs in positions (think of 8 O'Briens characters ) of lording it over 8 million puts the percentage at (well, one in a million, or) 0.0001%
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DECODED THE WT TODAY!!! SHOCKING!!!
by ADJUSTMENTS inif you had the pleasure of hearing the watchtower today what a good way to cover their tracks right after the am!
so if their is any doubts they will scare it out of the rank and file!
i have to give it to them they did their best to plan this out along with all the new light i guess it was to trya and stop the internal bleeding.
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"The officer sends out a little cheap shot before Van Tuinen moves on, telling him, "Look at you. You're shaking." This is a common cop tactic designed to both a) cast suspicion on the person and b) assert the officer's control of the situation. The fact that it's a byproduct of the fight-or-flight response is ignored. People speaking to armed authority figures will often appear nervous because that's how the human brain works. It's not solely a byproduct of fear or guilt. It's adrenaline being pumped with no available outlet."
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Never Become Enraged with Jehovah (tomorrow's WT Study)....pure vomit
by raymond frantz innever become enraged against jehovah.
(watchtower study 7-13 october).
paragraph 4.
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@The Quiet One: Manifestly! You cannot hold in ridicule the command of the organization you perform to represent, explain, apologize for, account for. You cannot hold in contempt and disregard the law whose lawmakers' (other) laws (that are more convenient) you perform to adhere to.
(http://legal-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/Contempt+of+Court)
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Never Become Enraged with Jehovah (tomorrow's WT Study)....pure vomit
by raymond frantz innever become enraged against jehovah.
(watchtower study 7-13 october).
paragraph 4.
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You have sinned invisibly. Getting angry is invisible sin. Coveting is invisible sin. Looking but not touching is invisible sin. Getting motivated to go strive towards an arduous goal so as to gain an edge in life is invisible sin. It's all about the invisible with them, isn't it? Jesus did this invisibly, Jehovah does that invisibly, the Holy Spirit does this other thing invisibly, that thing happened invisibly back then and that over there happened invisibly at this other time. And, "Do you see? Do you see the abundant evidence for this truth staring you straight in the face like a baseball bat, brothers and sisters?" <klapklapklap> If someone duck taped their fat mouths shut for one year, there'd BE no rank and file because reality would have penetrated and there'd be a mass scales falling from the eyes.
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What the hell happened to "Heaven"
by smiddy init seems to me that this 20th / 21st century has made heaven obsolete .prior to this timeframe the average person would have thought ,somewhere just above the clouds is where heaven would be.then gradually as knowledge and science increased ," heaven" has been further removed from the vicinity of earth.then we had yuri gagarin the russian cosmonaut circling the earth in his space capsule , and he wasnt in heaven .now many people from different countries circle the world in space in the international space ship.they obviously are not in heaven either.. not to be overlooked of course is the moon landings , which was a major acheivement for science and engineering when it was first accomplished.. however their has not been one ,not two or even three moon landings , their has been six with a total of twelve humans who have set foot on the moon.
and they never encounted "heaven " for people who dispute the moon landings , do you honestly think other nations ,some hostile to the americans ,would sit back and not challenge these acheivements ?.
after all these years ?.
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Heaven is a Neolithic diametrically vertical rejection of the deterioration of corpses that disappear into the ground under gravity. Of course you cannot foist your version of an afterlife on others and thereby accrue income without some persuasive or unarguable words from the deity you represent, so you must people your heaven with your deity and make sure that your deity writes something or other - it doesn't have to be legible, comprehensible, consistent- so that you can say that you have the single unfailing correct interpretation and are the deity's authorized salesmen representatives.
It's easiest to think of heaven as an orthogonal brane or 4th spatial dimension in which our three dimensional universe is placed. Orthogonality that we can theorize but not demonstrate conserves the idea that God has TCP/IP addresses for every hair of your head and hears what you think with attosecond response time. This is superior to attempting to fit a scientifically demonstrable heaven -that so far has refused to demonstrate itself- into our present understanding of the universe, which would place it beyond the observable hubble volume, or, before the existence of the universe, and require God to communicate faster than light speed. I recently read an article in Scientific American that CERN was able to spell out "I am" using the Higgs Boson ok that's lame jk. I mean, there's a lot of wavelengths that are invisible - near IR, mid IR, far IR, microwave, radio, xray, gamma. What wavelength does heaven radiate at? We should be able to detect traces of it if it occupies some frame of reference to our reality. (Think of the little pips of plastic that tell you an item was molded.) If one feels that "the fingers of god" phenomena -because someone said "god"- is evidence of such a divine presense in our reality, I invite that individual to read up on what the fingers of god are, actually.
I ask to be unsubscribed from the deity-heaven emails, but I do think of the future itself with the same fervent anticipation as others think of heaven. The future is a domain of mostly good that surrounds an unavoidable chunk of bad. The good is a pervasive general well-relaxed ongoing improvement in some optimal majority of people's lives, punctuated by occasional catastrophic reversals of human decency.
Since I do not subscribe to warp drive, either, I figure that humanity's future would get them as far as the Oort Cloud, a gossamer shell of comets one light year from the sun, and the last gasp of dominance from our sun, but not colloquially "part of the Solar System". Voyager is only a hundred or so AU's out. It will take hundreds or thousands of years to reach the Oort cloud.
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It appears the Ex-JW community is having a huge impact on the way funerals are being handled at the KH
by StoneWall injust wanted everyone to know that i got back today/night from my second jw funeral in less than 3 months and that both of them (2 different halls),were handled completely different than in times past.. used to be it seemed like a recruitment opportunity (as many of you have pointed out before), but these last two times it was totally different from previous times.
it didn't seem like they used the outline at all that had been posted in another thread a while back.. that was kinda interesting and refreshing at the same time to actually hear them focus more on the individual that had passed instead of only a few minutes about them and the rest all about the org.
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Is it a standing default, sort of the rule, that a funeral talk is in a KH? I recall none in a secular / civic / real world venue.
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Death- most in the truth do well with it.....really?
by DS211 inok so at dinner we talked about death and how hard it is to deal with.
sister a goes "oh well people in the truth react different, they do well because they are in the truth.
they know theyll see them again soon.
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My bucket list item was higher education in science. Prior to that I was terrified of flying. Now that I feel I've used my proverbial talent wisely, I cannot complain Too loudly if it's my time to go. One thing I fundamentally disagree with is the gestalt zeitgeist of sophisticated, discriminating elan when someone opines that they wouldn't want to live forever. I can only surmise they really do not know how much they do not know. There's a lot to see in this session of universe-existence, just in our own local Hubble volume. There are other Hubble volumes, as well. Generally the things that keep you engaged are the interfaces between the rule and the exceptions to the rule. In my recollection of JW-ville, dying prior to Armageddon would remove some of your rights, such as to marriage. So you die by some worldly drunk driver's mistake, and Poof, you are celibate for eternity. Yes, there was a caustic, toxic venom against death. I still carry it.
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The Governing Body Know What Makes Jehovah Sad :(, Happy :), Tired zzzzz, And Other Deep Feelings
by frankiespeakin inwell did you notice how these guys on the governing body seems to know such intimate things about jehovah like what he's thinking, what makes him sad/happy and yet they never even personally met the guy, because he is completely invisible except for those that claim to have seen him.
in other words they claim no direct communication with the corporate deity but claim to know his intimate feeling based on the study of an ancient text where writers claim direct inspiration and expression of the deity.. could these just be projections of their own thinking and feeling processes onto the corporate deity?
most likely.. isaiah 42:14-16.
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sd-7, you have reminded me of an episode from the TV series "Angel" with evil puppets.