You have sinned invisibly. Getting angry is invisible sin. Coveting is invisible sin. Looking but not touching is invisible sin. Getting motivated to go strive towards an arduous goal so as to gain an edge in life is invisible sin. It's all about the invisible with them, isn't it? Jesus did this invisibly, Jehovah does that invisibly, the Holy Spirit does this other thing invisibly, that thing happened invisibly back then and that over there happened invisibly at this other time. And, "Do you see? Do you see the abundant evidence for this truth staring you straight in the face like a baseball bat, brothers and sisters?" <klapklapklap> If someone duck taped their fat mouths shut for one year, there'd BE no rank and file because reality would have penetrated and there'd be a mass scales falling from the eyes.
Posts by rmt1
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56Never Become Enraged with Jehovah (tomorrow's WT Study)....pure vomit
by raymond frantz innever become enraged against jehovah.
(watchtower study 7-13 october).
paragraph 4.
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What the hell happened to "Heaven"
by smiddy init seems to me that this 20th / 21st century has made heaven obsolete .prior to this timeframe the average person would have thought ,somewhere just above the clouds is where heaven would be.then gradually as knowledge and science increased ," heaven" has been further removed from the vicinity of earth.then we had yuri gagarin the russian cosmonaut circling the earth in his space capsule , and he wasnt in heaven .now many people from different countries circle the world in space in the international space ship.they obviously are not in heaven either.. not to be overlooked of course is the moon landings , which was a major acheivement for science and engineering when it was first accomplished.. however their has not been one ,not two or even three moon landings , their has been six with a total of twelve humans who have set foot on the moon.
and they never encounted "heaven " for people who dispute the moon landings , do you honestly think other nations ,some hostile to the americans ,would sit back and not challenge these acheivements ?.
after all these years ?.
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Heaven is a Neolithic diametrically vertical rejection of the deterioration of corpses that disappear into the ground under gravity. Of course you cannot foist your version of an afterlife on others and thereby accrue income without some persuasive or unarguable words from the deity you represent, so you must people your heaven with your deity and make sure that your deity writes something or other - it doesn't have to be legible, comprehensible, consistent- so that you can say that you have the single unfailing correct interpretation and are the deity's authorized salesmen representatives.
It's easiest to think of heaven as an orthogonal brane or 4th spatial dimension in which our three dimensional universe is placed. Orthogonality that we can theorize but not demonstrate conserves the idea that God has TCP/IP addresses for every hair of your head and hears what you think with attosecond response time. This is superior to attempting to fit a scientifically demonstrable heaven -that so far has refused to demonstrate itself- into our present understanding of the universe, which would place it beyond the observable hubble volume, or, before the existence of the universe, and require God to communicate faster than light speed. I recently read an article in Scientific American that CERN was able to spell out "I am" using the Higgs Boson ok that's lame jk. I mean, there's a lot of wavelengths that are invisible - near IR, mid IR, far IR, microwave, radio, xray, gamma. What wavelength does heaven radiate at? We should be able to detect traces of it if it occupies some frame of reference to our reality. (Think of the little pips of plastic that tell you an item was molded.) If one feels that "the fingers of god" phenomena -because someone said "god"- is evidence of such a divine presense in our reality, I invite that individual to read up on what the fingers of god are, actually.
I ask to be unsubscribed from the deity-heaven emails, but I do think of the future itself with the same fervent anticipation as others think of heaven. The future is a domain of mostly good that surrounds an unavoidable chunk of bad. The good is a pervasive general well-relaxed ongoing improvement in some optimal majority of people's lives, punctuated by occasional catastrophic reversals of human decency.
Since I do not subscribe to warp drive, either, I figure that humanity's future would get them as far as the Oort Cloud, a gossamer shell of comets one light year from the sun, and the last gasp of dominance from our sun, but not colloquially "part of the Solar System". Voyager is only a hundred or so AU's out. It will take hundreds or thousands of years to reach the Oort cloud.
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It appears the Ex-JW community is having a huge impact on the way funerals are being handled at the KH
by StoneWall injust wanted everyone to know that i got back today/night from my second jw funeral in less than 3 months and that both of them (2 different halls),were handled completely different than in times past.. used to be it seemed like a recruitment opportunity (as many of you have pointed out before), but these last two times it was totally different from previous times.
it didn't seem like they used the outline at all that had been posted in another thread a while back.. that was kinda interesting and refreshing at the same time to actually hear them focus more on the individual that had passed instead of only a few minutes about them and the rest all about the org.
(wt).
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Is it a standing default, sort of the rule, that a funeral talk is in a KH? I recall none in a secular / civic / real world venue.
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Death- most in the truth do well with it.....really?
by DS211 inok so at dinner we talked about death and how hard it is to deal with.
sister a goes "oh well people in the truth react different, they do well because they are in the truth.
they know theyll see them again soon.
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My bucket list item was higher education in science. Prior to that I was terrified of flying. Now that I feel I've used my proverbial talent wisely, I cannot complain Too loudly if it's my time to go. One thing I fundamentally disagree with is the gestalt zeitgeist of sophisticated, discriminating elan when someone opines that they wouldn't want to live forever. I can only surmise they really do not know how much they do not know. There's a lot to see in this session of universe-existence, just in our own local Hubble volume. There are other Hubble volumes, as well. Generally the things that keep you engaged are the interfaces between the rule and the exceptions to the rule. In my recollection of JW-ville, dying prior to Armageddon would remove some of your rights, such as to marriage. So you die by some worldly drunk driver's mistake, and Poof, you are celibate for eternity. Yes, there was a caustic, toxic venom against death. I still carry it.
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The Governing Body Know What Makes Jehovah Sad :(, Happy :), Tired zzzzz, And Other Deep Feelings
by frankiespeakin inwell did you notice how these guys on the governing body seems to know such intimate things about jehovah like what he's thinking, what makes him sad/happy and yet they never even personally met the guy, because he is completely invisible except for those that claim to have seen him.
in other words they claim no direct communication with the corporate deity but claim to know his intimate feeling based on the study of an ancient text where writers claim direct inspiration and expression of the deity.. could these just be projections of their own thinking and feeling processes onto the corporate deity?
most likely.. isaiah 42:14-16.
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sd-7, you have reminded me of an episode from the TV series "Angel" with evil puppets.
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses, suffer from Stockholm Syndrome? What do you think?
by LoisLane looking for Superman in.
i believe they do.. loislane.
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Can you hear the drums fernando?
I remember long ago another starry night like this
In the firelight fernando
You were humming to yourself and softly strumming your guitar
I could hear the distant drums
And sounds of bugle calls were coming from afar
They were closer now fernando
Every hour every minute seemed to last eternity
I was so afraid fernando
We were young and full of life and none of us prepared to die
And I'm not ashamed to say
The roar of guns and cannons almost made me cry
There was something in the air that night
The stars were bright, fernando
They were shining there for you and me
For liberty, fernando
Though I never thought that we could lose
There's no regret
If I had to do the same again
I would, my friend, fernando
Now we're old and grey fernando
And since many years I haven't seen a rifle in your hand
Can you hear the drums fernando?
Do you still recall the frightful night we crossed the rio grande?
I can see it in your eyes
How proud you were to fight for freedom in this land
There was something in the air that night
The stars were bright, fernando
They were shining there for you and me
For liberty, fernando
Though I never thought that we could lose
There's no regret
If I had to do the same again
I would, my friend, fernando
There was something in the air that night
The stars were bright, fernando
They were shining there for you and me
For liberty, fernando
Though I never thought that we could lose
There's no regret
If I had to do the same again
I would, my friend, fernando
Yes, if I had to do the same again
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NEVER WASTE YOUR TIME WITH YOUR JW FAMILIES KIDS, IT'S A WASTE!
by AuntConnie inyou won't be disappointed when all the years you played with the little bastards, feed the assholes and baby-sat the little ungrateful trolls come's to pass.
please don't waste you time like i did, my evil family let their little snott-nosed creeps roam around all day (they were in home school, mom was working while elder dad kicked the kids out to watch howard stern and x-rated movies) so the little freaks showed up after my kids got out of regular school.. .
wasting your time on selfish nephews and nieces is insanity, you will discover this once those golems grow up.
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AuntConnie is top shelf single malt. Smooth. Real. Very clear.
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The Governing Body Know What Makes Jehovah Sad :(, Happy :), Tired zzzzz, And Other Deep Feelings
by frankiespeakin inwell did you notice how these guys on the governing body seems to know such intimate things about jehovah like what he's thinking, what makes him sad/happy and yet they never even personally met the guy, because he is completely invisible except for those that claim to have seen him.
in other words they claim no direct communication with the corporate deity but claim to know his intimate feeling based on the study of an ancient text where writers claim direct inspiration and expression of the deity.. could these just be projections of their own thinking and feeling processes onto the corporate deity?
most likely.. isaiah 42:14-16.
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That picture, if real, is existence proof of catastrophic lobotomy among its intended viewership. No thinking member of the species, who is free to exit the situation, can absorb that magnitude of stupidity. It really defies expression.
Now, my question is: There's one African American male out of the eight, for a representation of 12.5%. This makes sense to me because the African American population in the US is about 12.5+%. So where is the legitimate Latino face of this evil Caucasian empire? I think that young face-not-sagging punk is a bit out of place, and should be replaced with a seasoned or weathered Latino face. For a start.
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses, suffer from Stockholm Syndrome? What do you think?
by LoisLane looking for Superman in.
i believe they do.. loislane.
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ABBA did not have Stockholm Syndrome:
No more carefree laughter
Silence ever after
Walking through an empty house, tears in my eyes
Here is where the story ends, this is goodbye
Knowing me, knowing you (ah-haa)
There is nothing we can do
Knowing me, knowing you (ah-haa)
We just have to face it, this time we're through
(this time we're through, this time we're through
This time we're through, we're really through)
Breaking up is never easy, I know but I have to go
(I have to go this time
I have to go, this time I know)
Knowing me, knowing you
It's the best I can do
Mem'ries (mem'ries), good days (good days), bad days (bad days)
They'll be (they'll be), with me (with me) always (always)
In these old familiar rooms children would play
Now there's only emptiness, nothing to say
Knowing me, knowing you (ah-haa)
There is nothing we can do
Knowing me, knowing you (ah-haa)
We just have to face it, this time we're through
(this time we're through, this time we're through
This time we're through, we're really through)
Breaking up is never easy, I know but I have to go
(I have to go this time
I have to go, this time I know)
Knowing me, knowing you
It's the best I can do -
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Merchandising in Watchtower
by indicetj.com in.
merchandising in watchtower?.
look ilustration no 100. http://indicetj.com/pdf/estudo_2_jehovah.htm.
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Thank you!
Now that I have seen some evidence, my scandal-o-meter is having trouble getting above a zero. Seems to me this kind of a marketing deal falls under the plausible deniability of maintaining verisimilitude. It's probably the Most verisimilitude that these Inner Party staged events have ever had, in fact, if they get to use props that real people (not fake people), actually use in their everyday life. The primary occular victims (JWs) will get to think that their tireless efforts intersect in some way, tangibly, with the false world of materialism, via some select materials. They have practised crimestop enough that a $ connection won't linger long.
Taking a second long close look at the Adidas picture... You'd have to have a CSI "Enhance" button, but if I am not mistaken the marketed product has faintly higher resolution and deeper contrast. See if you agree or if you think I'm seeing things. It would require Fourier image analysis to tease out what my eye thinks it sees. For the coke photograph, no, it's all the same resolution.