Posts by Gill

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Where were you last night....!!!!!!

by Gill in

what happened to jwd forum last night?!.

anyway, i managed to find another way of entertaining myself and stumbled across the official jw discussion site.

has anyone else visited this?.

Gill

What happened to JWD forum last night?!

Anyway, I managed to find another way of entertaining myself and stumbled across the official JW discussion site. Has anyone else visited this?

Talk about mind control! What's with the editing of the posts? What's with the NO APOSTATES!?!

All Apostates will be shot, chewed up and spat out on sight!!!!

If I ever doubted that the JW's were a mind control cult it put me right last night!

All apostates vill be strung up vid piano vire!!!! Heil the organization!!

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"Obesity Awake- Nov. 8, 2004"

by dothemath in

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friends

i've heard many comments about cong.

members won't be presenting this mag..........it's a touchy subject, not to mention the advice in the awake isn't any different than advice from dr. phil, oprah, etc... etc........... one interesting obversation- at the end of the article it doens't say to just "wait on god's kingdom".........this is how the very last paragraph goes.......... "where there's a will, there's a way.

do you have the motivation to do something about it?

Gill

I would like to place a disclaimer here in that I am not in any way anti chubby people. I am also a demi\goddess and have an ample rump as do a lot of my family. But I have discovered that when I eat less and move a lot more I lose weight. Wow! Who would have thought it!

So, perhaps I was never meant to get into the Kingdom. I'll just have to stick with the drunks and the fornicators.

Sounds good to me!

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"Obesity Awake- Nov. 8, 2004"

by dothemath in

jw
friends

i've heard many comments about cong.

members won't be presenting this mag..........it's a touchy subject, not to mention the advice in the awake isn't any different than advice from dr. phil, oprah, etc... etc........... one interesting obversation- at the end of the article it doens't say to just "wait on god's kingdom".........this is how the very last paragraph goes.......... "where there's a will, there's a way.

do you have the motivation to do something about it?

Gill

Never met a witness who took any notice of the gluttony side of people not getting into the kingdom.

The drunkards and fornicators were always a lot more interesting to judge. They got up to more interesting things to gossip about than just stuffing their faces.

Anyway, I've been told by witnesses that Jehovah made everyone different and some just have bigger glands or are meant to be fat, after all it's in the family genes.

More like it's in the family to eat too much and then sit on your fat ass and watch TV (no, no, no, ...I meant study for the next meeting).

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busted by a fake evergreen tree

by cab1000 in

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my wife and i have not been to a meeting for well over a year.

we are not disfellowshipped, but would be if we admitted to the elders what we've been up to, mainly smoking.

we was both born and raised in the "truth".

Gill

Sorry to hear your story Cab1000!

My husband's Grandmother always received a Christmas Hamper from her husbands old firm, a large turkey and all the goodies, christmas pudding and pies etc. She decided, since the turkey was enormous, to invite all the old brothers and sisters and poorer brothers round for dinner to share the feast. It was around christmas time but then when else are you going to get christmas things? So she holds her christmasy do and they all had a lovely dinner. The next day, the elders turned up and she was reproved for misconduct. Basically, in a nice way she told them where to shove their reproof and shamed them as she noticed that the elderly, the single older sisters and those in divided households were not very often invited to anything.

She had at that time already been in the truth for sixty years!

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Are You Surprised As To How You Are Now That You're Out of The "Truth"?

by minimus in

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since we were indoctrinated that those leaving the organiztion had their lives turn into sh*t until they "returned to jehovah (the organization), how would you say things have turned out--so far?

?

Gill

I'm totally surprised!

I expected to be a depressed and hopeless soul who would see no point in living any more.

The WTBTS movement had made me unhappy and afraid for the whole of my life, fearing that if being in the movement, that was the only one that would be saved, could be so bad, then being 'in the world' must be a nightmare!

I saw a counsellor for a long, long time and then one day I realised that for the first time ever, and I mean EVER, I felt free, alive and HAPPY. I had NEVER know what it was to be really free and happy until that day.

I am not angry with, or do I hate, the Witnesses! I feel a very strong pity and sadness for them and rage with 'the Society' for brainwashing the minds of so many people who were just looking for that little bit extra.

I've finally got my head around the fact that I will never see the years 2300, or 2400, or 4000 or... get the drift. It would have been nice, but it was never real. I know it was just a dream now but the price for such a dream was too high....for me any way.

And if the future has been written, then if I'm meant to be there I will be and if not...then not.

It's good to be alive and free. I think this is the way to live, as yourself, with love for others, not as someone who is hanging on to a sinking life raft and kicking everyone out of the way who may stop them surviving.

Yes, I am surprised and it's wonderful.

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Transfusion debate?

by mjarka911 in

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i wonder if the recent shooting of jw aaron davis and his wife in a parking lot will spark any debate on jw's and blood transfusions.

could the shooter's lawyer argue that although he did shoot the two, their lives may have been saved by transfusions.

if you hit and cause a minor injury to a christian scientist but he refuses the necessary medical treatment and dies of complications...can you be charged with murder?

Gill

Whichever way you cut it, it was the shooter's fault. He was carrying the gun and he shot them.

What if one of them had a weak heart and then died of a heart attack because of the trauma?

Would that have excused the shooter? I don't think so.

People are always going to fall out, the good, the bad, the ugly and the JW's. Does that make it all right to shoot them?

They didn't want blood is not the same as they didn't want to be saved. They did not forbid medical treatment.

Remember, taking a blood transfusion is not a guarantee that a surgeon will be able to save your life in an emergency. If that was true, there'd be a lot less people in the cemetries.

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JW Shot Outside Blockbuster Refuses Transfusion and Dies!

by Voyager in

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Gill

District Overbeer! You're going to give us a bad name! (but you did make me laugh for a minute or two, then I came to my senses)

There was a case in the U.S a few years ago of a young woman who was raped and then stabbed and she then died in hospital after she refused a blood transfusion. The rapists lawyers claimed that it was her own fault that she died because she'd refused blood and that the defendent should be found not guilty. The jury had more brains than to swallow that and he was found guilty.

I would still support a persons rights to refuse any form of treatment they didn't want for whatever reason they didn't want it. You still do not know whether the blood would have saved him anyway or his injuries might have been to bad to save him any way.

I've survived losing 5 pints of blood with only volume expanders but the surgery was there to save me and stop the bleeding. This may have not worked for him so... try to have a heart. Otherwise you're just adopting the same heartless attitude that we're accusing the JW's of!

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Another reason to hate the WTS.

by CountryGuy in

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you know what i hate most about the wts?

that no matter how much you think you've put it all behind you... it still comes up and smacks you over the head every now and then.

saturday night, i visited my local bookstore/coffee shop.

Gill

Sorry to hear your awful experiences with shunning.

I'm always glad that, though it worried me in case I got caught, I always made a point of making eye contact with a DF person and smiling. One lovely lady had her son in the same class as my sons. We always nodded and smiled even after he DF ing. Then one day she came to speak to me and told me how her house had been burgled, the front door kicked in and her sons quilt cover used as a swag bag to put her possessions in. I couldn't ignore her an |'m still glad that I didn't and was sympathetic with her. I was told off by an elder's wife who told me I should know better but even she didn't have the heart to shop me in. Good on her!

Shunning was always my fear. It put me six months in counselling and 1 year with a psychiatrist. Now I'm COOL and don't give a shit to be honest.

I dare 'em to shun me. Bring it on you swines!!!

He, he!

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Wish Me Luck

by Englishman in

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today i visit the hospital for my pre-operative check up.

if i'm found to be fit and healthy once more, then i will be admitted back into wsm general in 2 weeks time to get reconnected.. which will mean goodbye to the bag and hello to my a**!

just in time for christmas.. it's something to with be able to withstand anasthesea.

Gill

Good luck Englishman, can I call you Mike?

Don't be brave if you don't feel like it but stick with it and get your problem sorted.

I'm such a blubbering fool every time I have to go to the hospital. I make such a twit of myself that my immeadiate family all refuse to go to the hospital with me. Good job I'm a lot healthier these days, touch wood!

Like you, I suppose, I've had quite a few nasty, hair raising but necessary procedures in hospital and though I wouldn't want to do it all again, IT WAS WORTH EVERY MOMENTS DISCOMFORT!

All the best,

Ju

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We're not Suitable!

by Gill in

my husband and myself used to be witnesses, but not for quite a long while now.

every last member of both our families are witnesses so i guess we're the proverbial black sheep, but we haven't been disfellowshiped or have me disassociated, just drifted quietly away.. my husbands grandfather, who is ninety-seven now, suffered a stroke a year ago.

he spent several months in hospital.

Gill

Thanks for your thoughts everyone, we do appreciate them.

Outnfree - Grandpa was asked what he wanted to do and he said that his first wish was to live at home with carers coming in to help him and failing that he would like to live with us.

They said NO!

He came to stay with us for a couple of nights and his son threatened to have him sectioned under the mental health act if he didn't return to the care home. My father in law did not know that with our phone every one in the room could hear what he was saying to Grandpa and he said awful things about us and accussed my husband of violence in forcing him to stay at our house. The opposite had been true in that we had pleaded with him to go back to the nursing home because we knew it would cause trouble. But he wanted to stay with us and we let him.

However, the son does have the power to have his father sectioned and held so we did not want that to happen to the old gentleman and so the next day we took him back.

Maybe we were weak but I think sectioning would have broken him, and we knew how they could lie like Olympic lying champions.