a criminal in nz- in this case a murderer - has the right not to be identified - even after conviction?
quote: "why was grace millane’s murderer granted anonymity?
the reasons for the so-called suppression order, like the name of the killer himself, cannot be given for legal reasons.
The judge in the trial cited in the OP has said that the suppression order is not permanent. It has nothing to do with whether or not New Zealand is a left- leaning country because current legislation on name suppression was passed into law when the conservative National party was in power.
Once it is announced whether or not the defendant will appeal his 17-year sentence, the suppression order will be revisited by the Judge.
since disassociating in october 2008, i've had little to no direct contact with the jws, apart from immediate family members (ie my parents).
i've lived in my rented flat since may 2014 and haven't had a knock on the door in that whole time.
until saturday morning.
Mutual respect throughout the exchange. It could have turned negative very quickly but your astute mindedness paved the way for a helpful exchange. I like that you did not zero in on their specific beliefs as JWs but centred the exchange around beliefs shared by most Christian believers. They were less defensive and would even concede your points.
I've no doubt that these two JWs will remember the exchange and may even have thought far more deeply on the issues that came up. Well done!
from a member of the board asking for this to be posted.. hi.
i'm pimo.
could you please let people know about this?
I can't find the Kim & Mike youtube re/these hall dissolutions
You can subscribe if you want to - or click on their icon and it will take you to thumbnails of all their videos - click on the relevant thumbnail and you'll be fine.
watchtower has been named as world's most published and circulated magazine in us.
amazing.
source:.
Who wrote this fluff piece? Among other comments, the Awake "magazine" is described as a magazine "beloved of Christians."
I can't believe there's no comment about The Awake and the Watchtower in recent years becomming increasingly more like pamphlets or tracts than magazines.
https://www.broadwayworld.com/cabaret/article/bww-feature-nicolas-king-concentrated-awesome-20200117.
He sounds gay - is he? No mention of wife and/or children?
for many years the government of mexico did not allow religious organizations to own property.
any property used by a religious organization was confiscated by the government.
this law changed in the mid 1990's.
Very interesting! How do other religions such as Latter-Day Saints and 7th-Day Adventists get on as regards property in Mexico?
the following is an extract from an article i wrote when i left the watchtower 25 years ago.
it may be helpful in reasoning with a jw about the anointed/great crowd distinction.. --------------------------------.
to divide people into those with a heavenly hope and those with an earthly one is not a biblical concept.
Two groups: Jews and Gentiles but one hope.
Remember, the two classes doctrine came, not from Russell, but from Rutherford. His flawed reasoning was based on the 144,000 - mentioned but twice in Scripture and then only in the book of Revelation known for its symbolic use of numbers.
Basing a doctrine involving a literal interpretation of a number in a book replete with numbers even JWs treat a symbolic is a bit unsound to begin with.
i was reviewing some of the evidence the wt proposes for their claim of the bible's scientific accuracy, when i came across this interesting assertion.. the mountains rise and fall, and today’s mountains were once under the ocean.
(psalm 104:6, 8) in contrast, several myths say that the mountains were created in their current form by the gods.. https://www.jw.org/en/bible-teachings/questions/science-and-the-bible/.
interesting.
Excellent find! It's the religious variant of 'having your cake and eating it too'. JW organization writers seem incapable of giving too much thought (or critical thinking) over what they've said elsewhere.
the watchtower—study edition | march 2020. .
4 jesus taught us the importance of making peace with a brother who has something against us.
(read matthew 5:23, 24.
Make peace not shunning.
when the doctrine regarding 1935 being the close of the calling was done away with in 2007, it was not unexpected to see the number rise.
over the next few years it went from around 8,500 to 10,500. this seemed to indicate that there were a couple of thousand people that may have felt they had the calling all along, but too shy to profess it.
for the 30 year period between the mid 1978 and 2007, parktakers had barely dropped.
Only in a "Christian" cult would the "hope" of going to be with Christ in heaven upon death be viewed with such scepticism, scorn and derision (even among ex JWs). By contrast, in mainstream Christianity the "heavenly hope" is commonplace - and generally doesn't invite any head scratching.
We can thank Rutherford for his sniffy take on the 144,000, the residue of which persists well into the eighth decade of his death.
