They will ask Watchtower biggies "What changes have you made?" ...to which they will reply "We don't remember... er... can't recall... ah we don't have that information because we just do a little translation work"
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Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission - Jehovah's Witnesses and Watchtower to appear on 10 March 2017
by jwleaks inlatest date just published for case study 54, jehovah's witnesses and watchtower.
the public hearings will commence friday 10 march 2017 at the child abuse royal commission's hearing rooms in sydney.. http://www.childabuseroyalcommission.gov.au/case-study/10908a67-70c5-4103-94cc-dac096fdb585/case-study-54,-march-2017,-sydney.
the scope and purpose of the public hearing is to inquire into:.
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Their lamps are going out.
by biblexaminer ineveryone here has read mt.
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i have mentioned this illustration in conversation with several dubbies, to draw attention to their foolishness in following watchtower's false reasoning.. in the illustration, there are two kinds of virgins, or people.
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Just heard that there's going to be some chopping of elders in our congo. Lights are dimming.
One is very old. His lamp has no problem financially, as he was 'up there' in the wage area in 'Satan's world' due to getting education and a good position in a booming business years ago, before the Watchtower was so diligent in snuffing out lamps.
Another elder that looks slated for the heap just moved here to serve blah blah blah, and they heaped the work on him. He is stretched financially. He had big dreams.
Funny thing when you live your life like a foolish virgin, you fall down a lot more in the dark.
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Does Paul preach a fundamentally different religion than Jesus?
by Yesu Kristo Bwana Wangu incontroversy has arisen regarding jesus versus paul as scholars debate the different emphases and messages of jesus and paul.1 jesus preached the kingdom of heaven.
paul did not.
paul preached justification by faith alone.
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biblexaminer
People will chose to believe that which they want to believe. Most often, that which agrees with their lifestyle.
Are there "differences" between the OT and NT. Sure. But the Bible has endured thousands of years of tinkering, starting with the Jews and then the "Christian" church.
But, the idea that God was ruthless in the OT and snugly bugly in the NT is preposterous.
God is Love. But Love demands justice. How would God be showing love to the fatherless boy if he coddled the bastard who beat him?
In the NT, Peter started a community. That community was communist in the true sense. In came a couple of capitalists, Anninias and Saphira. They were busted for practicing capitalism in the heart of Gods community. God struck them dead. The Christian God of the NT, the God of love, struck them dead.
And they deserved it. That's what Love demands.
Jesus preached the God of the OT, as did Paul. But their teachings clarified much that was obscured by the Jews.
But people will convince themselves of whatever... here no different than in dubland past.
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Incredible document on the Watchtower and cognitive dissonance
by sabastious ini recieved an awesome document in my youtube messages yesterday.
the person giving it told me it was the best description of the experience he had went through which involved entering and exiting the watchtower over the course of only a few years.. .
written by jamie boyden [<--not sabastious] sunday, 08 february 2009 14:19. .
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biblexaminer
I don't know that everyone in dubland can be helped to see the light, but I know how I have helped some.
In a one-on-one situation, I have helped get some out. But that is not always possible.
What has otherwise proven effective is a carefully crafted letter sent to a dub in the mail.
As brought out in the OP with the article quoting Watchtower counsel, dubs don't read that stuff. Yep, I get that. After 50 years in the cult, I understand that.
.... unless you carefully craft it and send it to all their neighbors too. And when I say "carefully craft it" I mean construct it with their neighbors as the audience, and craft it so that when the dub opens it, they understand right off that this was sent to their whole neighborhood.
They'll read it.
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"Hey Mister" by The Rutles makes great reference to JWs
by Zaccheus ini was awakened this morning by our barking dogs at the front door, and thought the worst.
fortunately, no door-knocking delusional hippies in ties, just neighbors telling us a bird was caught in our garage.
phew.
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Good beat
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Elders getting burnt up.
by biblexaminer inthe elders in this area are getting burned out.
i have overheard comments that demonstrate this, but in my dealings with them, i clearly see it.
they can't keep it straight.
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How pathetic. I got a text from the COBE today asking if my son could take the arrangement, and at the hall no less.
Usually he asks me to take it. But today, he knows, I'm off the grid. So, instead he asks me in a text if my son can do it.
First, my son is not an MS. He was passed over because he went to school.
Second, why the hell are you asking papa? For gods sake, he's old enough to take the group, why the hell don't you ask him?!?!?!!!!
Now, I am the biggest "apostate" in town, hands down. The shiFt I've been up to...wooo
And all they got is to ask me... and if my son can do it!! (insert expletive)
We went through the list of possible elders and ms's in the congo, and we can't believe that in two groups slated to meet at the hall this am that the almost TEN appointed ones can't do it.
TEN
I get asked all the time lately to take the group, and I almost always say no, because I have XYZ...
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Funny event at the Memorial celebration
by DaPriest infor this award, i would like to nominate something that happened in berlin south english, again.we all have seen people that try to disrupt the memorial celebration, and this is not amusing at all.
its quite sad.
what is amusing is when the disruption occurs from within.an incident occurred once, when a brother was passing the bread around.
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What JWs practice is far removed from Christ. The event is supposed to be a sharing. It was meant to add cohesion to the church, impressing on the minds and hearts of participants that they were all to be one. It was to be done often, as often as gatherings occurred.
They would share a cup as they would share their lives and their belongings.
Why would I want to be in a roomful of unbelievers and share a cup.
Why would any supposedly authentic "anointed JWs" want to be in a room where the public is invited, heathens and unbelievers who might drink the cup with me?
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Old Watchtower Literature
by biblexaminer insomewhere, somewhen, a dubb died.... waiting for the end no doubt.
when they died, they left their precious watchtower literature to somebody else, another dubb.. and that dubb also waiting for the end, living some austere life as they hovered over their precious and aging watchtower library, eventually died.. and again.
and again.. eventually, the last dubb to die left their bound 'salvation' to the congregation, who put it on a shelf, never to be read again.. and that's where i came in.. watchtower bound volume originals from the 1800's and others.. very old.. the watchtower .
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biblexaminer
I have several copies of Vol 1 & 2 I believe and I have Pastor Russels Sermons that my dad used to carry around at work in his pocket as he 'preached the truth' LOL
You should hear him talk now.
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Day 5 - Fessler vs. Watchtower – Ends: Plaintiff settles in Jehovah’s Witness Child Abuse Trial
by darkspilver inday 5 in court - and apparently the plaintiff stephanie fessler has decided to settle..... http://www.pennlive.com/news/2017/02/jehovahs_witness_sexual_abuse.html.
jehovah's witness sexual-abuse-coverup lawsuit settled.
february 13, 2017 at 2:37 pm, updated february 13, 2017 at 2:44 pm.
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biblexaminer
If every now and again, one of the abused takes the loot and helps the others, then others can sacrifice themselves and drag it out to the finale attracting public attention.
I just hope that there is some cooperation going on and some sharing.
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Old Watchtower Literature
by biblexaminer insomewhere, somewhen, a dubb died.... waiting for the end no doubt.
when they died, they left their precious watchtower literature to somebody else, another dubb.. and that dubb also waiting for the end, living some austere life as they hovered over their precious and aging watchtower library, eventually died.. and again.
and again.. eventually, the last dubb to die left their bound 'salvation' to the congregation, who put it on a shelf, never to be read again.. and that's where i came in.. watchtower bound volume originals from the 1800's and others.. very old.. the watchtower .
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Jaydee
Yes, those are the ones. In the picture I see vol 4,5 etc. I don't have past vol 3, but I think I might get more.
In any case, the first 3 volumes are incredibly important as they demonstrate what needs to be demonstrated.