i have been repeatedly pleaded with to read the books of ray franz in my short stay on this board.
apparently these are all the all-powerful, wt crushing arguments, that lead so many to leave jw's and become ruthless opposers of god's people.
we can discuss any claims/statements/scriptural arguments presented in either of his books, as long as it somehow proves jehovah's witnesses are not god's people.
Recovery,
Who gives a shit about scriptual debate? Most of us had our fill of it for decades. I for one don't ever want to debate scriptures even though many of my past posts talked of only "still" being a Christian.
Debate time is in the past. It is now time for living my wonderful life with whatever years I have left.
HappyDad (an aging senior)
so, in a tit for tat agreement with my wife to do something i wanted to do, i agreed to go with my wife for saturday and sunday to the district convention.. for most of the day, i simply read other things, paying little attention to what was going on.
my wife could care less if i am paying attention, more that i am there to wrangle little ones who are being distruptive so she can listen.. but one of the things i did catch, was that they highlighted "four satanic teachings".. one of which was that "you need a higher education to succeed in this world".
so higher education is now satanic??
Cincyguy74,
You have a PM.
HappyDad
fury at muslim biz dress codes.
by gary buiso and kate briquelet.
last updated:1:10 pm, july 22, 2012. posted:12:57 am, july 22, 2012. j.c. ricepain in the neckline:hana dagostin (left) and ivana saftic balk at a dress code posted for a pharmacy on lee avenue in dearborn, michigan.
Ohhh! They can violate constitutional rights but let an American businessman require everyone who comes into his/her busuness speak English is wrong. Looks like our forefathers and us as well, are going to be flushed down the toilet. And the liberal bleeding hearts here are probably jumping for joy.
HappyDad
somebody you think you know well enough to trust writes you a big check.. the check bounces.. they don't exactly apologize, but, give a plausible explanation.. they then write you another check on a different account.. since you believe them very trustworthy you accept it graciously.. .
on the strength of their reputation and assurances you deposit the check in your own account.. from there you proceed to pay for various necessities, mortgage payment, insurance and childcare expenses.. the check bounces again!.
your checks, consquently, also bounce!.
Terry,
This is great! I sure envy you mind. Thanks for keeping us thinking.
HappyDad
5 graduate degrees that don't pay offby kathryn hawkins bankrate.com .
123456>5 graduate degrees that don't pay offin today's tough job market, many recent college graduates are enrolling in graduate programs to enhance their credentials and gain an edge with hiring managers.
in some cases, the tactic may lead to lucrative job opportunities.
My advice to any young person getting out of high school is to go to a trade school and become a plumber. No matter how technichal the world gets, you still need a license to unclog a toilet. The bottom line on the main thing that a plumber tech needs to know is that crap flows down hill and the hot is on the left and cold on the right. And yes..you will get dirty.
Ok.....now that I made a funny.....remember that it takes a lot of knowledge to be a plumber and I am not putting the trade down whatsoever. How many master degreed idiots know all the different fittings and pipe sizes and the building codes that a registered master plumber needs to know to even get a license for his/her business?
I know several plumbers making 6 figures a year and they are happy.
HappyDad
ive been lurking for quite sometime and now feel the need to come and noob it up.
it's taken a lot to bring me to read anything critical of the wts.
i used to glance at these apostate sites and shutter in fear because of the obvious demonic venom that can be found :) i am still an active witness and have been in this struggle to stay both in and be removed mentally from this organization.
Welcome and get ready to learn the truth about the truth.
I'm 65 years old and spent over 30 years knocking on doors and trying to convince myself that this was God's organization. Wrong!
I wish you the best.
HappyDad (from near Pittsburgh, PA)
of course everyone knows about the news of the candace conti child abuse case which has gone viral , ( one would have to live in a cave, under a rock, or another planet not to know about it ).
that being said - it may very well be that those jehovah's witnesses who do not use the internet, or read newspapers, or in simple english are neanderthal's, still living in the 19th century or before , out of fear of negative reprisal from wt authorities may have not even heard about this case because they are in the habit of not watching the news or using the internet.. so- with those particular type of people in mind my son flipper jr. & myself decided to print up about 20 copies of the candace conti child abuse lawsuit from the england daily mail issue , here's the link : http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2160605/candance-conti-molested-jehovahs-witnesses-member-age-nine-wins-28milion.html?ito=feeds-newsxml .. so what we did is since we are doing some out of town jobs in several counties we figured we'd leave these child abuse news releases under jw car windshields at kingdom halls while they are out in field service.
we left about 15 so far at 3 different kingdom halls under car windshields .
Good job Mr. Flipper!
HappyDad
..on my head.
in some small way i think i understand one reason for shaving new recruits or prisoners.
as i did it i felt sick in my stomach and it felt like i was losing some of my personality.
When I was young, my hair was so thick that the barber had to use thinning shears when I got a haircut. My biggest fear about 10-12 years ago was going bald when I started to thin dramatically. Today I love the bald look. There are too many bumps and scars to actually use a razor but I use a #1 on my clippers and like the look. (even though my head is odd shaped)
HappyDad
i don't and am very unlikely to after seeing my father dying of a smoking related lung disease (even though i would like to try a high quality cigar).. but i am curious to see how many people take up smoking after leaving the org.. .
I'm sorry to say that being a non smoker for 35+ years......I started again about 5-6 years ago. Damn hard to quit I must say.
HappyDad
can you imagine how much money they must make off of all the assemblies?
i counted at least 211 between this week and end of the year.
if they get paid by each city.... .
Your term "Watchtower Cult" only degrades and sensationalizes. There is no way any publication put it that way. A newcomer looking at this board will be turned off by your choice of words.
If you can't post facts as they really are.....then don't post at all.
HappyDad
