Posts by dubstepped

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Do You Ever Wonder Where Certain Posters Are?

by minimus in

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friends

do people simply leave because the site has given them what they wanted?

are they now infrequent lurkers?.

did they go back to the watchtower?.

dubstepped

From what I hear Wake Me is just living life right now and taking care of her kiddo.

I think the site just runs its course for people. The goal for most is to become an ex-ex-JW I think. At a point there's not much more to say. I like to help people and get into the personal stories but otherwise there's not much more to talk about, nothing new coming out from the Borg to work through, it does lose some degree of interest. I think activism helps maintain that interest. You can do that here too by helping new ones. Interest does wane over time. It is nice to see familiar faces here though. Well, some of them. ;)

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Just a Rant .......

by LOLS in

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friends

hi beautiful people ..... so today is my wedding anniversary ....... .

and first of all my dear husband forgot again .... which is normal according to my dear old dad "it's a man thing " .

but to add insult to injury , i must wait till friday to be taken out for dinner , because low & behold my jdub husband can't miss one bloody jw meeting !

dubstepped

This is "just a rant" and he's just a jerk. I hope you directed this same rant his way. He needs to know how he makes you feel, also the kids.

The sad reality is that the cult will always come first if he's in it. I know what it's like to be that kid as a child and an adult. I'd try to take my dad fishing but we could never go in the morning because he had to go in service every Saturday without fail and then he'd have an elders meeting or something after. We pretty much always fished in the heat of the day but that's all that was left. You always get whatever leftovers there are after the cult comes first.

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"Do not make any graven image" (oh except the one on the Ark of the covenant of course!) Huh??

by stuckinarut2 in

so we all know that the first few commandments state that "there should be no graven images made" etc.... but, the very "ark of the covenant" had two angelic figures on the lid!

so the very box used to carry the 10 commandment tablets, broke those same laws!!!.

this observation, plus many other hilarious ones is highlighted in the latest episode of the how-to heretic podcast (episode 063).

dubstepped

I listened to that episode last week and learned a lot. I never was big on the stories in the Bible and a lot of stuff slipped past me. Stuff that probably would have opened my eyes way before I actually woke up. I love their podcast. That's a great share.

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Charges against Jehovah's Witness accused of molesting a 4-year-girl in church dismissed

by Rattigan350 in

https://www.ydr.com/story/news/2018/12/04/charges-dismissed-against-jehovahs-witness-accused-molesting-4-year-girl/2203041002/.

harges against a man accused of molesting his 4-year-old cousin in a york county jehovah’s witness kingdom hall in 2005 have been dismissed partly because the alleged offenses occurred when he was a juvenile.. john logan haugh, now 26, who now lives in delaware, was charged in may of this year with two counts of indecent assault of a person under the age of 13 in a case that shed light on the how the jehovah’s witnesses handle child sexual assault cases.

when john haugh appeared in court tuesday morning for a pre-trial conference, his attorney and the prosecutor had a discussion with judge maria musti cook out of earshot of the gallery in courtroom 7006. when court resumed, the prosecutor moved to dismiss the charges.

dubstepped

Well, though dismissed it was more legal technicality and as he said, they did more than the elders ever did. It also doesn't mean it didn't happen, plus there's still a civil suit for whatever that's worth. I'm sure that sometimes JWs are falsely accused. I'm not sure this is one of them but I guess it could be. Hard to prove much at this point.

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Two witness rule: who cares?

by _Morpheus in

i find people railing against the so called “two witness rule” puzzling.

i think its a complete and total non issue.

for those that protest, argue or advocate for change in that rule, why?

dubstepped

The two witness rule does matter in that it gets to how serious they view a thing but ultimately if they'd just say "this is a possible crime, we should have the police investigate" then the two witness rule wouldn't matter. I think it matters, but I think it's become the focus of many and really it's not the answer. They will hold to their "scriptural teaching" on the number of witnesses but regardless of what they do internally there needs to be external involvement as well. Nobody is going to change their internal policies but external forces can hold them accountable and enact mandatory reporting with penalties for failure to do so.

So it all matters, just at different levels.

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My sister passed away this evening

by smiddy3 in

it was only about two months ago she was diagnosed with lung cancer and she was a non smoker .. she was never a jw and she never held it against me that i was for 33 years.. we had a good relationship even though we lived in different states about 2000 miles apart,.. tears are rolling down my cheeks as i type this .

r.i.p.

sylvia .

dubstepped

So sorry to hear it Smiddy. Hugs to you.

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Just About To Leave For My Work's Christmas Party

by pale.emperor in

it's my work's christmas parts this evening.

just getting myself ready for it and decided to wear a suit rather than casual shirt and pants.

it's funny because i've just noticed that i now only own one suit.

dubstepped

Have fun, but be sure to read the latest Watchtower condemning Christmas as a refresher on why it's evil before you go so that you can tell the others.

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"Put on the JW uniform - and take off Humanity"

by stuckinarut2 in

we all know about the variation in the "cult persona vs the "real persona" of those in high control groups such as jws.. it struck me this becomes even more pronounced and apparent when jws actually put on their physical meeting or service attire, or are engaged in jw activities.

they become more robotic as their responses and actions - yes their opinions and discussions- are stripped of humanity and thought, and they become turned into some sort of regurgitating jw orator.. when they literally put on a suit or tie, the level of judgement, arrogance and black and white thinking takes on a whole new level.

take that clothing off, and put them in casual attire to attend some sort of enjoyable activity (eg sports watching or the like) and they become far more relaxed, and "normal".. i have noticed this particularly with my father.

dubstepped

My dad ways had the "kingdom hall personality". A total asshole that turned into a total sweetheart when he put the suit on and went to the meeting. Drove my mom crazy.

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Word association game

by ZindagiNaMilegiDobaara in

iconic.

dubstepped

Suits

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Can we ever get our loved ones out?

by SnakesInTheTower in

jw
friends

a post on another thread got me to thinking and writing.. should we even be trying to get our loved ones out of jehovah's witnesses?.

when a person truly believes in their belief system, or even if they don't but have held to that system for a long time, there is nothing we can say that will move them from that system.. why?

perhaps pride.

dubstepped

Nice post. It's not our job to save anyone. We can't for the most part, it's up to them. It may put them in a bad place if they did wake up. They get to live their life, and I get to live mine. I never expect to see them again. If I do it's a bonus, almost a resurrection of sorts, as I'm dead to them and they're pretty much dead to me.