Posts by dubstepped

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Expected pain

by former2free in

last week was a big week for me in terms of coming totally clean to my wife and her being more than on board to leave the jw’s with me.

we know what to expect but things happen from family and it still hurts just as bad.

last night my wife got a long text message from her brother that has seemed to be in the fence and he told her that same guilt tripping rhetoric that the wt uses about life in the paradise etc.

As far as how you two respond, do you. Feel out those relationships that you care about and see how they will go. Determine what games you're willing to play and what games would lead you to take further action. We faded for a bit and decided we didn't want to keep playing toxic games so we disassociated when a certain line we drew was crossed.

I'm just sorry that you two are facing this. Go slow. I know it's exciting to finally open up to your wife and have her on board, but it sounds like you might be letting that excitement leak out in the family and it could turn ugly. Remember that you were allowed to wake up on your time and let them do the same. You may blow it all up if you're not careful. You're carrying a bomb to drop so no sudden moves.

Congrats on waking up. I'm sorry that it also can cause problems. Freedom is rarely free. There will often be a price to pay and sometimes it's very heavy.

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What was the EXACT exJW website you first visited and why EXACTLY did you visit it?

by ILoveTTATT2 in

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i had two episodes of visiting exjw websites:one time around 2007 when i just googled "jehovah´s witnesses" and dared to look at those sites.

i was scared and i promised myself i would never come back to them.

however, that one didn´t really count.the moment that woke me up was this:i got to know that whitney heichel was a jw and murdered by another jw, because i overheard that conversation in a kingdom hall.i looked up the news and in one of the news comments, there was one where an exjw was complaining that they were hijacking her funeral and they were really trying to downplay the fact that her murderer was a jw... and then it said "visit jwfacts.com"... which i did.and the rest... is history.what exactly got you onto an apostate website when you woke up?

dubstepped

I came here first because I searched for a forum. I've always loved reading and posting on them.

Why did I come here? Because I was so fed up with the bull in the cult and just had to see what those apostates were saying. Lo and behold, they were seeing much the same things that I was. I was blown away. I remember telling my wife that if apostates were crazy then I must be one because these people see the same things I do. They aren't making things up.

Much to the chagrin of some on here, I've stuck around. I've learned a lot here and always wanted to help others. The personal stories were always the biggest draw for me.

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Watchtower disputes $200K tax bill from Newburgh

by Rattigan350 in

http://www.recordonline.com/news/20180904/watchtower-disputes-200k-tax-bill-from-newburgh.

town of newburgh — the watchtower bible and tract society of new york is challenging nearly $200,000 in fire and other special district taxes assessed for three town of newburgh properties, including two hotels the organization bought to house volunteers helping build its world headquarters in warwick.. in a petition filed in orange county court last month, the umbrella organization for jehovah’s witnesses claimed that the town “either unintentionally as a mistake or intentionally and without lawful authority” miscoded the former hilton on crossroads court and the former hampton inn on route 300 for 2016, 2017 and this year.. with a combined market value of nearly $23 million, the hotel properties were not assessed town, county and school taxes for those years.

but the town assessed $196,000 charges for the orange lake fire district and lighting and water districts during those years.. newburgh also assessed $1,600 in special district taxes over three years for a vacant commercial property watchtower owns at route 17k and route 300.. “petitioner would not be required to pay the resulting unjust charges if its exemption from taxes had been justly, correctly, and lawfully granted and administered,” watchtower’s attorneys wrote in the organization’s petition in county court.. watchtower bought the two hotel properties in 2014 as it built its 1.6 million-square-foot headquarters on kings drive in warwick.

dubstepped

You see, Watchtower doesn't pay for volunteers, volunteers pay Watchtower. That's how it works, in fact, why aren't the volunteer firefighters raising money for Watchtower? I think the assholes should sue the volunteer firefighters for not raising money for them. They are owed by them I'm sure.

Is it no wonder that JWs were usually awful tippers at restaurants and such? I mean, the organization just takes and takes and takes and shows no appreciation from either the cult members or the general public that might save them one day. Heaven forbid they have to pay for something. If they do, I guess they'll have to have another article or letter and the beatings will continue until morale improves.

Midwest ApostaFest 2018

by dubstepped in

i just released a fun and different episode of the shunned podcast.

it is a compilation of short interviews that i did at the midwest apostafest 2018 in august.

you will get to hear from a number of people that have been shunned for various reasons, and you can learn what woke them up, what they like about going to events like this, and more.

dubstepped

I just released a fun and different episode of the Shunned podcast. It is a compilation of short interviews that I did at the Midwest Apostafest 2018 in August. You will get to hear from a number of people that have been shunned for various reasons, and you can learn what woke them up, what they like about going to events like this, and more. There's also a scary story in there told by a little girl, so perhaps I should have put an advisory of some sort on there, but I'm pretty sure you'll be okay if you listen. It's a great way to see what kind of people are present at such an event, and hopefully an encouragement to those that are also shunned to get out and attend.

So it is Episode Seventeen - Midwest Apostafest 2018. You can find it on your podcast app of choice (iTunes, Apple Podcast, Google Play, my favorite is Podcast Republic, also Podbean, etc.).

If you don't want to download and listen on the go like most people listen to podcasts, you can also go to https://shunnedpodcast.com/episode-seventeen-midwest-apostafest-2018/ and listen through the player there.

Or you can go to Youtube and listen through my channel called shunnedpodcast.

https://youtu.be/Yso7ehkinIs

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Has Your Political Views Affected Your Buying Habits or Entertainment?

by minimus in

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will you avoid nike or tend to not buy apparel because of their support of colin kap?

would you stop doing business with anyone simply because you disagree with their politics?

in california, in and out burger, democrats were being told not to support the chain because they donated to republicans.. will politics affect your spending habits?.

dubstepped

I don't think highly enough of myself to figure anyone cares if I boycott a thing. I don't care enough to define any business by one thing that happens either. I buy what I want from the place that has it at a reasonable price with good service. The rest is all noise to me.

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Financially Are You Doing Better Than a Year Ago?

by minimus in

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this isn’t a usa question.

is your financial situation better or worse or pretty much the same?.

dubstepped

'Merica here, since it seems others from here commented too. Business is great (as long as people make things dirty it always has been though), we may expand, and if previous calculators were right we may come out better tax wise with Trumps new plan. We'll have to wait and see on that though.

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Big news today

by former2free in

for you who have read my bio you will know i have been working on my wife to wake her up.

now i won’t call her awake yet but through a series of long conversations this week i revealed to her my dissenting toward the jw faith.

she was totally supportive of me assured me she would never think differently of me because of how i feel.

dubstepped

So awesome. This is the third such story I've heard this week, all different but all having the PIMI person or persons be accepting and even listen. It's an interesting shift in some things. Good for everyone. Thanks for sharing. Like DOC said, baby steps. And when that baby takes its first steps it feels great.

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The Unveiling

by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho in

ladies and gentlemen, i proudly present you with mr and mrs @stucknomore2.0:.

https://youtu.be/o9bqz9jj_qg.

sacha and sherrie, you've done an amazing job in spreading the word about this forum, and it is my sincerest hope that the plug you made brings some newcomers in.

dubstepped

Just watched the video with my wife and you two were great! We could relate to so much of your story, including the dynamics between you two as one was awake first and that process of getting your spouse on board.

We're both so happy for you and you seem like two of the most genuine and good people. Congrats on taking that next step out!

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Sisters handling mic's

by I Faded Twice in

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i saw a topic on another forum where a sister was supposedly carrying the mics.

i was curious if this was even possible?

is it new light or just a lie?.

dubstepped

Lmao @ you holding anyone accountable. You have been called out over and over again and you disappear like the coward you, and all who came before you, are. You answer nobody's questions or points yet expect us to bow to your twists and turns. Fuck that and fuck you.

Check yourself before you call out others. If you want to hold someone accountable, start with your cult. Or maybe sack up and answer questions yourself. Be ready to make a defense of those asking it from you, or just duck and run over and over again, coming back under different names with the same predictable pattern.

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The Unveiling

by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho in

ladies and gentlemen, i proudly present you with mr and mrs @stucknomore2.0:.

https://youtu.be/o9bqz9jj_qg.

sacha and sherrie, you've done an amazing job in spreading the word about this forum, and it is my sincerest hope that the plug you made brings some newcomers in.

dubstepped

Heck yeah Sacha! You come visit me, you move to the top of the interview list, lol. That would be fun.