Nocturne

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  NHL Lockout... Whatever Shall We Dooooo?!?!

  by Scully in

  1. social
  2. physical

  so, it sounds like the nhl and the players association is deadlocked and there's no contract.

  the owners want to put a cap on the players' salaries and the players say no deal to that.

  if there's no hockey this season, have you thought about how you're going to occupy hockey nights??.

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  I'll occupy myself with NHL 2K5....no clutch and grabbing, high scoring hockey.
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  Perfection

  by Deputy Dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  perfection

  after a discussion with a couple of current jws, it's come to my attention that my conception of perfection in "the kingdom" is very different from theirs.

  on pages 188 & 189 of the knowledge book, we see the society's (or artist's) conception.

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  Finally one said, "I believe that you can do things wrong and still be perfect". How's that? I asked. He said, "what I mean by perfect, is that in the Kingdom we won't get sick or die." "I see, so perfection in the Kingdom is about the conditions that man will live in, not the change that God would have to make in my sinful nature" I said. That's right! he said. The meeting ended shortly after.

  So God doesn't make a change in our sinful nature, by that statement doesn't it mean that they believe that in paradise they will still sin and have to ask for forgiveness, but they won't get sick and die? This would seem to contradict Romans (i forget where, haven't opened a bible in so long) where it states that the soul that sins, dies.

  Keep asking questions like this, where it traps them and forces them to think outside the WTS box.

  Nocturne
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  Will the real Jehovahs Witnesses Stand Up?????????

  by rnovello in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  have anyone of you ever heard of or read anything at livingwaters website.

  it is pure evil .

  you would not believe what they do to people on the net who join their site.

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  This is seriously hilarious...another JWs offshoot?? What's their beef with the WTBTS?
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  Who is the new President of the Watchtower Society? And are there 7 new org

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have been wondering who is the president of the watchtower society?

  my mother told me that milton henschel died in 1993 and i have not heard of anybody ever replacing him?

  my mom also told me that the society has 7 new corporations within the watchtower society.

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  Poztate,

  I believe this is where I say "Pun intended"
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  Who is the new President of the Watchtower Society? And are there 7 new org

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have been wondering who is the president of the watchtower society?

  my mother told me that milton henschel died in 1993 and i have not heard of anybody ever replacing him?

  my mom also told me that the society has 7 new corporations within the watchtower society.

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  I believe the new WTBTS President is a man named Don Adams. He is not on the GB. If I'm wrong, please let me know as I would not want to misinform others. Thanks.
  

  Actually, I'm 99.9% sure that he is not part of the GB. The whole point of splitting up into multiple corporations and the GB stepping down from the board of governors back in 2000 was to make sure that they would not be liable in any lawsuits involving the WTBTS or something like that.
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  Who is the new President of the Watchtower Society? And are there 7 new org

  by booker-t in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i have been wondering who is the president of the watchtower society?

  my mother told me that milton henschel died in 1993 and i have not heard of anybody ever replacing him?

  my mom also told me that the society has 7 new corporations within the watchtower society.

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  I don't think it's a big secret that the JWs have multiple corporations working for them. It's all due to changes that happened a few years ago when the governing body "officially" stepped down from their position from the WTBTS. It is basically in case of lawsuits. Like you said, the Christian Congregation of Jehovah's Witnesses Inc. oversees doctrinal matters, and if I'm not mistaken, they handle the appointments of DOs, COs, and elders. So then what happens, if someone sues the JWs over let's say their handling of a particular child abuse case, and they win, the WTBTS will be protected and they'll be able to continue their book publishing business.

  So the moves of the org are not a sign that they're being blessed by god with rapid expansion, but rather that they're making smart business moves, and trying to cover their assets.
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  Wierd Stuff

  by SWALKER in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i know this may sound strange but i would like some input on the following.

  i have a handful of friends (some in the org and some out) that are saying that "god" is talking to them.

  he is communicating directly or using an angel.

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  Are any of them posting on the e-Watchman's forum?
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  Dec KM

  by mann377 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the last time i posted this the doc.

  was to small, so i enlarged it.

  see if this can be read.

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  Godly Obedience?!?!

  And by "Godly" they really mean the wts.
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  A Witch Told my Friend he would Die... (serious thread - opinions)

  by Confucious in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hey guys, .

  one of my closest friends told me that when he was 15, he went to get his palm read by a witch.

  she told him that he would be dead by the time he was 35. .

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  The POWER OF SUGGESTION can be fatal. Adherents to Voodoo often die when a "spell" is put upon them by a conjurer. Is it the spell that kills them or the belief in the spell?

  Kenneson, that is an excellent point here. Having heard several "stories" of voodoo in my time, all I can say is that most of those stories are hogwash. The mind is indeed a very powerful thing, and can truly affect your perception of things, and can even make certain "events" happen to you if you truly believe it.
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  When You Went Thru The Baptism Questions Did You Understand It All?

  by minimus in

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  2. friends

  did you understand all the questions and answers to all those questions that you were asked?

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  I definitely didn't understand it all at the time. I just repeated the answers, I wasn't really into it, just going through the motions. But I did get asked to explain the '95 doctrinal change (a test of loyalty to show that i wasn't following "old light") which I did, but did not really understand the implications of that change until now.

  I do know of someone who was raised as a jw, and then he asked to baptized (I'm pretty sure pressured by his mom), my friend's brother who was studying with him told the elders that he wasn't ready for it, but they still let him get baptized. The guy is no longer a jw...enough said.