Don't retract what you told her if it's true. She deserves to know what's going on. I don't think anyone is every completely prepared for what they are getting into when they start to investigate. I wouldn't burden her down with too much extra information right away, build on what you're telling her, answer her questions, and get her more as she is ready. Good luck getting her out of the borg.
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I've planted a seed before I was ready to nurture it! Help!
by imallgrowedup ini don't know if i have just unwittingly set my jw mother up for trouble with the wt and i need some opinions on what to do!
i have wanted to try to get my mom and step-dad out of the borg for a long time.
they've been in for about 40 years, so they are pretty die-hard.
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And so it begins
by Yerusalyim in.
tom green, the convicted polygamist in utah, is requesting (through his lawyers of course) that the supreme court overturn his convictions based both on the supreme court ruling on the texas sodomy law and the massachucetts supreme court ruling on gay marriage.. so begins the trip down the slippery slope.
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People take dumb things to court all the time. Anyone remember MacDonald's coffee "Caution: Hot". Or the new lawsuits "Fast Food chains made me fat". Just because they are going to court doesn't mean they the courts will rule in the favor of the defendant. And just because they approved gay marriage does not mean they are going to approve polygamy. Any way you look at it one consenting partner regardless of gender is still a completely seperate issue from multiple partners.
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Return To God, and He WIll Forgive You in a Large Way!
by AwakenedAndFree indid you leave the watchtower society and the true god ,too?.
i believe that god still helps some of the of the ones still "traped" in the org.
- god helped me greatly while i was still in.
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Mysterious
the reason for God to take Vengence against the Ungodly- ones ,is for the purpose of having God's Name Vindicated, His Name Glorified! - God is HOLY!. When God finally executes is Adverse Judgement, mankind will be free from wickedness and ungodly people - and God's Sovereignty wil be DECLARED.
Explain to me how God's soverignty needs to be vindicated at the expense of the millions of children living in poverty, disease, and starvation worldwide. Explain to me how they 'threaten' his soverignty by struggling to exist without him lifting a finger in their behalf. Explain to me what is so holy about letting them suffer and die, or destroying them because they do not throw themselves at his feet. Explain to me how they are wicked. What you paint is a idealist picture that whitewashes all the suffering and destruction.
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The problem of Noah's flood and the origins of the Indo-European languagues
by badboy injehovah's witnesses say noah's flood happened c.2000bc.. interestingly a possible problem arises with the origins of the indo-european languagues b/c, which linguists have calcaluated(sp?
)2 have originated about 8,900 years ago using a cognate database,hittite being near the root of the ie family followed by tocharian ,greek and armenian.. there4 the ie languagues spread with agriculture in2 europe arriving in scotland 5500 years ago.. question?.
how will they explain this?
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Mysterious
And as the English/French/Spanish were very colonial look what happened. Yes Australian English is similar to Queens English and to American English but they are different and if we do not think in terms of human time spans but in terms of 100s of years American English in say 500 years will be quite a bit more different from Queens (English) English. It will have a number of Spanish, indigineous and Native American words and phrases. Similarly even today Mexican Spanish is different than Spanish Spanish - language evolves that is why the Old Testament is obviously not the work of Moses et al -- but the work of copyists and scribes and redactors
A good example is Shakespearean english and expressions compared to modern english. It's amazing just how much it's changed. Half the time when someone makes a study of Shakespeare they need reference works in order to understand it properly! Another example is in Canada. The french spoken of in Quebec is different than that spoken in France and other french speaking countries. They have picked up english words and expressions as well as their own slang and pronunciations.
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Torturing for Christ
by MegaDude injust sick.
various ways of torturing the non-believer or sinner in the good old days.
http://www.jesusneverexisted.com/murderers.htm
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Mysterious
Personally I think everyone is entitled to their personal path to spiritual enlightenment. As long as they leave me the hell alone!
I couldn't agree more. There would be so much fewer problems if everyone just minded their own religious business.
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Dec.03 KM - Evidence of a Fake Ministry?
by metatron ini have often asserted on this forum that the published totals for publishers and hours.
are not to be believed.
first, because i'm a fake publisher ( like many) and second, because.
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Random Task they were posted already from the german watchtower: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/62483/1.ashx
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Did you ever had any TRUEl Friends in the WTS?
by Rick Aust inhow would you discribe a true friend?
and do you think you ever had any real freinds while you were there?
i think its hard to have a real freind if you need to be careful about everything you say and do.
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My best friend, he and I grew up together since we were babies. He has always been my best friend and he remained my friend after I told him I was gay. And he remains my friend as I slowly pull ties with the WTS. And he has vowed to always be there for me even when I am totally out of the organization. He cares about me unconditionally as a person and would do anything to help me. That is a true friend, and I met him on the inside.
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Joanie the Jehovah's Witness Stripper
by blondie inwant to hear paul thorn sing this song?.
http://www.houstonjones.com/cds_&_samples.htm.
select the mp3 marked "joanie..... blondie
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Elsewhere,
go to http://www.houstonjones.com and the click on the cds/samples section the find the one about Joanie on the list. The link didn't work for me either until I did it that way.
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More push over "bad assoc." online
by Mysterious init was at the meeting i ducked out of yesterday, mom told me all the highlights.
apparently they are starting to crack down on online gaming because it lets you associate with "worldly" people.
this was further extended to chat (which they have been after for years) and online communities.
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It was at the meeting I ducked out of yesterday, mom told me all the highlights.
Apparently they are starting to crack down on online gaming because it lets you associate with "worldly" people. This was further extended to chat (which they have been after for years) and online communities. Think the borg are finally starting to realize that too many people are finding out about "real life" through the internet and they have to get them back under control?
Mom of course is now pushing me that I spend too much time online, and especially on message boards. (hah at least she doesnt know about this one!).
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With all due respect, that is some of the most tortured exegesis I have ever seen. I applaud the author's motive--presumably to combat discrimination against homosexuals by Christians--but the argument is ridiculous.
Some arguments are better than others. I found a few sites on my own as well. http://www.whosoever.org/verses.html
http://www.queerme.com/index.html