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  Was it worth meeting with the judicial committee?

  by 24k in

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  for those of you who met with a judicial committee and were subsequently da'd or df'd, was it worth the time and effort?

  did the elders let you speak your piece, or were they only interested in hearing that key word or phrase that would allow them to act?

  was there genuine interest shown, proboing questions asked, did they really want to know how you felt?

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  Meeting with the elders only reinforces in their minds that they still control your future. Why let a small group of men wield this sort of control over you. That is why I refused to meet with them. Their decision was already made whether I attended it or not. Why try to fight it? In my case, I looked upon it as someone who was on death row. Once you are strapped in the chair, there is no way to talk yourself out of it.

  Sure, I was thinking about going, but only to record the meeting. If they were to ask me if I was carrying any type of recording device, I would have told them the truth and said, "Yes." I would also have told them that the meeting would not continue without a second person present as a witness to my statements if I could not record the meeting for my personal use. Well as we all know, both scenarios are not allowable, so the meeting would have went on without my presence. If the elders ever want to meet with me again for any reason whatsoever, it will be in my own home where I set the rules, not them. All conversations will be recorded, period. That is why the WTS is so paranoid about people recording these little meetings....the elders may say the wrong things or misrepresent the WTS in some way that can come back later and bite them in the @ss. Otherwise, the three elders can get their stories straight and gang up if a df'd witness says something that could land them in court. Any judge would have to take the word of three men compared to just one person with no one to back them up.
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  Latest "talk" by GB member being emailed around

  by catchthis in

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  not sure if this is a "made up" email or not -- sounds like any other talk you've ever heard..... .

  >a talk recently given by brother guy pierce ... .

  >safeguard your spirituality by training your perceptive powers .

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  catchthis

  Not sure if this is a "made up" email or not -- sounds like any other talk you've ever heard....

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  >A talk recently given by Brother Guy Pierce ...

  >Safeguard Your Spirituality by Training Your Perceptive Powers

  >By: Brother Guy Pierce of the Governing Body

  >1. Listen to Jehovah. Many think they know the answers, but they don't even know the questions.

  >2. Study regularly, study deeply. We can be desensitized by what we see and hear, thinking it isn't bad, i.e., Christmas songs. We hear them; next thing we know the tune is running around in our head. In a short time, we are humming them, just as Satan wants.

  >3. Do we spend pioneer time in front of the TV or computer, and token time in service? Psalms 119:37, "Make my eyes pass on from seeing what is worthless."

  >4. Jesus is countless billions of years old...and one day we will be as old as Jesus is now, and he'll only be twice our age.

  >5. The Bible is inspired of the Sovereign of the Universe. It's a masterpiece, give it careful attention!!!!

  >6. The reasons some give for not being at the meetings is the very reason why they need to be there!!! Too tired, too busy, not feeling well. All signs where spiritual resusitation would invigorate us.

  >7. Too busy because of the high cost of living, or living high? You can't put enough money in the bank to get through Armageddon.

  >8. A couple of young brothers are going to a movie. When asked if it has bad language, they reply, "Yes, but we hear it all the time in school." Do we want to pay to hear more? It should hurt our ears.

  >9. Every meeting is a holy, sacred occasion. Never be absent by choice.

  >10. Some are slowly losing the sense of urgency. We are in the heart and heat of a universal emergency. All in heaven have their attention focused on earth and what we are doing.

  >11. If we had the cure for cancer we would tell everyone. We DO have the cure for cancer, AIDS, and even death that people desperately need to hear.

  >12. Our ministry is an extension of God's love. When you talk with someone they are face to face with a representative of Jehovah God. (I know we've heard this before, but to stop and meditate on this -- it takes on new, deeper meaning.)

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  April 1st Question From Readers Justifies "Bribery" and "Tipping"At Times!

  by minimus in

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  i don't have the magazine but i read it at my mother's yesterday.

  the gist of the article is that some christian's consciences might allow them to give a "gift" or payment to an official to speed up some paperwork or get them to look at something that they might otherwise ignore because they weren't "tipped"!

  .......i wonder if this has anything to do with the dumbo thing going on in brooklyn (crooklyn).....

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  another post I replied to about the fire truck....

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/11/86769/1441310/post.ashx#1441310
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  The Watchtower's Bribery Dilemma ( April 1 '05 Watchtower)

  by metatron in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in recent years, some witnesses in former soviet territory got their names in the papers.

  for supposedly trying to bribe officials to stop harassing them.

  in response, the watchtower.

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  I wonder how the WTS would explain the fact that when they wanted to build the Patterson facility they were able to get all of the government approvals they needed after giving the city a shinny new fire truck.

  Actually, the reason for them buying the Patterson FD a new truck was because of the population increase that Patterson brought along with its building structures. The existing fire truck(s) were not able to provide enough water coverage to put out any possible future fires that the complex may have had. The town told them that the complex buildout would not be able to go forward without the purchase of a new farther reaching water truck. As any good corporation with a lot of money would do, they bought them the truck that they needed. Corporate campuses such as Microsoft and Motorola would have done the same thing.
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  YESTERDAY'S WT STUDY

  by Mary in

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  oh lordy, at yesterday's botchtower study, paragraph 17 (i think) asked what we personally found "encouraging" about the 2004 stats that are listed by country in the wt.

  anyway, someone finally put up their hand and remarked about how wonderful it was to see that ethiopia had a 5% increase......ya, i guess if you're starving to death, who wouldn't want to hear that paradise is right around the corner.

  one bro put up his hand and actually mentioned the fact that there was 0% increase in virtually all the industrialized nations, but that we "shouldn't let that discourage us".

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  *catch, putting his corporate hat on*

  As with any corporation, employee morale must remain at a higher than average level. If employees see the ship sinking, many will jump off and head to another ship.

  The 2004 WTS report is pretty close to the same as any 10K report which is put out by any publically held company. 10K's, by their nature, are scary documents for investors and employees to read through. They outline all of the negative aspects that can affect a company's bottom line. Usually when a 10K comes out, (amateur)investors sell off due to a simple knee-jerk reaction. After a day or two, it typically evens out again....unless the company really has some major problems. The WTS has some major problems. They know it. The only way to retain their "investors" or "employees" is to pull an Enron or Worldcom. They simply need to doctor the numbers. I would imagine that they are already doing this to some extent.

  Another way to 'hide' these numbers from the general public is to eliminate them altogether. Yes, I know. The WTS has a hard-on when it comes to blowing their own horn regarding statistics. But if they truly want to remain a going concern, they need to get rid of the annual numbers to keep up the morale. JW's will get depressed and may possibly develop a bad attitude due to thinking: "I spent how many hours last year in field service??? And what do I have to show for it??? Nothing!!"

  But there is one other little problem with this scenario. If they do away with the annual numbers, then what is the point in having the dubs turn in their time each month? Afterall, that is how one's spirituality is judged.

  I'm not sure what they will do, but in the very near future, prior to any significant decrease, they will HAVE to doctor the numbers or completely get rid of them. Morale must remain high or else more people will begin to leave.

  "The beatings will continue until morale improves."
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  You know you're a JW when....

  by Preston in

  1. social
  2. humour

  you know that d.c. isn?t the capital where the president of the united states lives .

  a pioneer isn?t an 1800?s historical figure who traveled the west.

  the majority of books in your parent?s bookshelf have years on them.

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  ...you are in school and the other kids look at you funny when you speak of historical years in terms of C.E. and B.C.E instead of B.C. or A.D.

  ...your boss threatens to fire you for not putting up the holiday decorations in the store or office.

  ...you're the only one that leaves the classroom at the teacher's request while the flag salute or national anthem is played over the intercom.

  ...you get really bummed out for 'losing your privileges.'

  ...you manage to attend the Sunday morning meeting even though you are still hung-over but want to appear outwardly spiritual to the rest of the congregation.

  ...you refuse to donate a dollar or two into the company's bulk lottery ticket purchase, but will happily join in on the March Madness basketball pool.

  ...you see pictures of a burnt down church in the newspaper or on the TV and say to yourself that 'it was bound to happen pretty soon anyway.'

  ...your worldly relatives don't speak to you very much while you are a witness because they think you are a loony, but as soon as you are df'd or da'd, they call you every other day for no apparent reason other than just to talk.

  ...a kid from school who is the main bully picks you as his next victim and you literally take your jw parent's advice and let him beat the crap out of you without fighting back.

  ...you wonder why you've never received a jury duty notice and then one day figure out that only people who register to vote get them.
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  OMG! Revelation: A Grand Climax at Hand!

  by Swan in

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  i've been out longer than i thought.. when did they publish this book?

  what a title!

  how freudian!.

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  You have been out for a while. I think it came out sometime in the late 80's to early 90's. I believe we studied it around 3-4 times too.
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  The Watchtower's Bribery Dilemma ( April 1 '05 Watchtower)

  by metatron in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  in recent years, some witnesses in former soviet territory got their names in the papers.

  for supposedly trying to bribe officials to stop harassing them.

  in response, the watchtower.

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  catchthis

  Jeez. Even with many, if not all major corporations, employees are not allowed to accept "gifts" of any kind from other companies that they do business with. The obvious reason is that the party giving you the gift is relying on you to allow them to provide their services to your corporation. All it takes is one person in a position of authority to make the decision. This one person might even have enough friendly ties to others higher up in the company to influence them to accept these services.

  Of course, as long as the person receiving the gift(s) does not say anything, they probably will not be terminated. Many times though, the recipient gets free golf outings, spa treatments, dinners, strip clubs, etc. with no actual gift to take home. Many of these "gifts" are the loophole with several corps. They are simply viewed as a friend taking another friend out just for the heck of it. One time with an old company I used to work for, a boss who was two up on me was going to be let go because of a strip club "gift" from a vendor of ours. It was found out and when HR got involved he had a great excuse. He said he had won the basketball pool for March Madness --- he signed up with this other company's pool. Instead of taking the cash prize, he told them to take him out to some fancy gentlemans club. Mind you, that isn't what happened at all. The vendor took him out to influence his decision on purchasing future equipment(he was always hitting the strip clubs). He just managed to lie about the circumstances surrounding the gift.

  Government agencies are even more hardline. Gifts are not tolerated AT ALL.
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  Developers: Question about .Net Windows Services

  by Elsewhere in

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  last night i decided to start messing around with a windows service.

  it is very simple, all it does is monitor my computer?s ip address and if it changes the new ip address is ftped to my web server in a small xml document.. i thought this could be very useful considering my cable modem changes its ip address every now and then and i like to remote desktop into my home pc quite frequently.. now the problem... like i said, the program is very small and simple and the actual exe is 28 kb and has an accompanying dll that is 52 kb.

  very reasonable.

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  Else, what Doc said about dyndns.org isn't for your hosted domain name. As its name infers, a dynamic dns resolution service does exactly what you are trying to do. Quite simply, if you go to dyndns.org and sign up for their free service, you are allowed up to five subdomains. They have a list of 20-30 domains to pick from. You could use a domain name such as "elsewhere.homedns.org" or something like that. And then download one of the several dynamic ip resolution programs that are available. I use a free one called DynDNS Updater by Kana. It sends out a HTTP GET message to dyndns.org to check your public ip address and then modifies it with dyndns.org if it changes. Very easy to use.
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  Do You Enjoy Reality Shows??

  by minimus in

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  i hate them.

  and i find them boring......what's your take?

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  Apprentice here. Erin from this season is hot hot hot. There's something about her eyes and hair that just pulls me right in. The producers probably think the same thing and will 'influence' Trump to keep her on until the end to retain the male viewers.