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  I am traveling long way to meet stephen lett in sacramento would you like me to lgive message to him

  by poopie in

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  this weekend

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  kairos

  I know people that will be there.

  I could show up, you never know!
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  Dealing With ANGER!!

  by kairos in

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  little help i'd like to pass on from another cult survivor to me.. not jw but a violent, physically captive indian cult.. she says on anger:.

  it's the longest lasting emotion with have.. it takes at least 90 seconds for it to run it's course once we stop.a lot can happen in 90 seconds, and some of the most horrible exchanges and actions happen right after the anger first manifests itself.. we're experiencing fantastic results by just going for a very short walk ( 90 seconds out in the yard or other room ) before continuing the conversation.. when my wife and i come back together we can smile, embrace and congratulate each other for avoiding a horrible day.. before it even becomes anger, wait 3-5 seconds before making your reply.

  slow it down!!

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  kairos

  Little help I'd like to pass on from another cult survivor to me.

  Not JW but a violent, physically captive Indian cult.

  She says on anger:

  It's the longest lasting emotion with have.

  It takes at least 90 seconds for it to run it's course once we STOP.
  A lot can happen in 90 seconds, and some of the most horrible exchanges and actions happen right after the anger first manifests itself.

  We're experiencing FANTASTIC results by just going for a very short walk ( 90 seconds out in the yard or other room ) before continuing the conversation.

  When my wife and I come back together we can smile, embrace and congratulate each other for avoiding a horrible day.

  Before it even becomes anger, wait 3-5 seconds before making your reply. SLOW IT DOWN!! We imagine there is limited time and we are in some sort of hurry. Not true!
  

  Building a loving and lasting relationship takes constant work.
  There are no short cuts, so making time for our lover is top priority.

  Have a great day!
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  Exposing one's identity. When?

  by kairos in

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  2. friends

  i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

  ( "reaching out", so to speak ).

  i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

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  It's a high powered "Cease and Desist" letter.

  Let's lighten things up a bit shall we, and brainstorm some both positive a ridiculous ways to serve the letter to the BOE?

  Remember the assembly soliloquies? ( dumb )

  "The wrong way to witness/be a witness and now the correct way to protect against saddening our god"...

  So I'm looking for both the wrong and right ways to deliver the goods.
  ( please make the funny )
  I'm exhausted and could really use a good laugh!
  Are you with me?

  I'll post what method I eventually use and "how it turned out".
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  Exposing one's identity. When?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

  ( "reaching out", so to speak ).

  i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

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  kairos

  Anyone can be successful in exiting a cult.

  My situation is not like everyone's, obviously.
  I, after paying close attention to the way JWs are treating me, have been led to accept that these are not people I need to salvage any type of relationship with.

  This topic has morphed into a real time story of my JW life.The chapter is not yet closed, so follow along if you are inclined to do so.

  I'll share my next letter with anyone that would care to read it.
  Very likely a copy will be e-mailed to the previous COBE from my congregation that is the youngest of a horribly dysfunctional family of Napa JWs. I'll ask him to distribute the letter amongst the Napa BOE himself, so as to avoid an embarrassing scene at the KH where Officer Fisher potentially serves each elder as they enter the KH...

  The previous COBE, whom I will "counting on", pioneered and I supported him for years in the field before he was an elder. He was accepted to bethel and claimed to have 'access' to the GB on some late night security assignments, whatever that means.

  He came home a Bethel appointed elder and was almost immediately made the COBE in his mid-thirties.

  He's back at Bethel as we squeak!
  His father-in-law is a "well known Bethel lawyer". ( MM )

  So if I deliver the goods to him, it might just trickle down!!
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  I had requested them to put shepherding concerns in writing.

  by quincemyles in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  last week, i had requested the elders to put their shepherding concerns in writing and that only one elder visits me because i am uncomfortable with two.

  well, today they approached me and said we are not able to write to you and we are going to see you the two of us.

  i felt how inconsiderate and disrespectful of individuals the watchtower machinery is.

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  I can help you.

  Anyone can be successful in exiting a cult.

  My situation is not like everyone's, obviously.
  I, after paying close attention to the way JWs are treating me, have been led to accept that these are not people I need to salvage any type of relationship with.

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/93320002/exposing-ones-identity-when

  The topic morphed into a real time story of my life.The chapter is not yet closed, so follow along if you are inclined to do so.

  I'll share my next letter with anyone that would care to read it.
  Very likely a copy will be e-mailed to the previous COBE from my congregation that is the youngest of a horribly dysfunctional family of JWs. He pioneered and I supported him for years before he was an elder. He was accepted to bethel and claimed to have 'access' to the GB on some security assignment, whatever that means.

  He came home and elder and was made the COBE in his mid thirties.

  He's back at Bethel as we squeak!
  His father-in-law is a "well known Bethel lawyer". ( MM )

  
  

  So if I deliver the goods to him, it might just trickle down!!
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  Pauline David - barrister and legal counsel for [BCG] - Australian Child Abuse Royal Commission into Jehovah's Witnesses

  by jwleaks in

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  2. child-abuse

  a rare moment in legal and theocratic history.

  pauline david, barrister and legal counsel for [bcg], had the opportunity to question and cross-examine, geoffrey jackson of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses (a.k.a.

  "faithful and discreet slave").never before has a woman had the privilege of challenging and questioning a member of the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

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  favorable!
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  Phone call straight after the Royal Commission

  by umbertoecho in

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  straight after the commission ended today within minutes, the phone rang.

  it was one of the people who are working on it.

  firstly she established if i was alright and did i want to talk.. i said i was too tired and unhappy that geoffrey jackson managed to do some preaching....she said they were aware of that.

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  The FACT that each WTS rep all the way to top and also including their 'expert' *hack* witness Dr Applewhite didn't find the time to read the transcripts or be bothered by any of the proceedings in general.

  I stand that they believe Armageddon is 'very soon' and this is just a small bump in the road that they can look back on with laughter.
  

  Surprise!!
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  Exposing one's identity. When?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

  ( "reaching out", so to speak ).

  i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

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  Thanks for the encouragement.

  It's interesting, the written vs spoken word.
  

  For example, just reading the transcript of the ARC conveys a very different understanding compared to listening to the people speak with inflections and what-not. ( pauses, stutters, facial expressions, etc )

  Good observations. I am mad. I now have the courage to stand up for what is right for ME and MY WIFE.

  I'm a fairly even keeled fellow. Don't get overly excited about much and anger is very rare. As mentioned prior, my wife's relatives have never seen me mad before, so me with both my apostate barrel firing was probably pretty scary. So be it, I have emotions, too!!

  I hope sharing this experience, the way I have handled this small portion of my life along with it's successes and mistakes, will help someone in a similar situation. At least show that standing up for yourself by your own rules is possible. And empowering.

  Any speculation on what will happen next?
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  jwFairyTale.... Please, please, please, Jehovah

  by Brighid in

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  .... inspire jwfairytale to cover the royal commission.

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  kairos

  THIS.MUST.HAPPEN
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  Exposing one's identity. When?

  by kairos in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i've been toying with the idea of just coming out and posting my name and location as an attempt to be available to locals that secretly browse the forum that have known me for up to 25 years.

  ( "reaching out", so to speak ).

  i'm not da'd or df'd, so this most certainly could end in a dramatic confrontation.

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  kairos

  Another jolly-fun day today!

  I missed a call from, yes, another elder and his message inviting me to meet with them/him to "deal with this problem we have become aware of."

  SCREW THAT!!

  I took swift action today with the help of the Napa County Sheriff's Dept.
  Deputy immediately ( 15 mins ) came to my home and I explained the situation clearly with him and let him listen to the elder's phone message. Probably helped that I had each call documented and each elder's name, address and phone number!

  Of note, the elders only call me on my business cell phone during the work day.
  

  HE called the elder and firmly told him to stop contacting me or they will be found in violation of penal code 653m ( repeated annoying and harassing phone calls ). He explained that no formal legal complaint has been filed, but there is case file with all of the information. He then warned them that legal action is the next step.

  Then he tried to call two more elders...

  Left a message for one ( from my phone ) and the other line was busy.

  I thanked him for his help to me today and his service in the community.

  I feel pretty good right now, friends.
  Protect your fade!!

  Let's all stand and sing song number...

  Oooops