In fairness, the only thing that his church was meant to be a shelter from is taxes.
OneEyedJoe
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Osteen: "the city didn't ask us to become a shelter"
by ShirleyW inhe's sounding more like a dub everyday, sounds like one of their lame excuses.. i don't think the city asked the furniture and the mosque that opened to shelter people, and a pastor, one who supposedly helps people was waiting for the city?
he's just lying, that's why that response reminds me of the borg.
just my religious rant for the day, can't stand religious people of stature who spew out false statements..
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Strange Week for The Left
by freemindfade init's been a strange week, maybe the left sent out a memo this week that there losing their minds... three things i've noticed.... 1. mainstream media and politicians start bashing antifa a year into their bs, kind of odd, better late than never.
2. diane feinstein melts the brains of libs at a thing in sf when she expresses hope in trump, very odd, they probably ran her out of town with pitch forks and torches.. 3. trevor noah tells everyone to chill on ridiculing melania on what she wore to houston, beyond strange!
and also hypocritical, it's like telling everyone to think a certain way, to overreact to every little thing, then saying how dare you over react to something so insignificant.
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in some form or another: anti-fascists vs fascists.
The problem is that this is not anti-fascists vs fascists in any way other than name. In what world can you be suppressing free speech with violence and be called an anti-fascist? The lines aren't so easily drawn between good and evil and the sides aren't so black and white.
For reference:
Fascism /ˈfæʃɪzəm/ is a form of radical authoritarian nationalism, characterized by dictatorial power, forcible suppression of opposition, and control of industry and commerce, that came to prominence in early 20th-century Europe.One side has the nationalism, the other the forcible suppression of opposition. Which one is fascist? Both sides can't be right, but they can both be wrong. All ANTIFA is doing is helping white nationalists, neo-nazis, and the KKK recruit new members..
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Joel Osteen's Church is a Cult too ??
by ShirleyW init's being said all over social media that joel osteen hasn't opened his mega church for refuge during the storm, pictures are showing this area is not flooded.
i made a few comments myself saying that the jws only help their own in time of need but this god fearing man isn't helping anyone.. just what religion is he and his followers, i guess it's one of those non-denomination churches that collect a shitload of bucks to him and wife so he can afford the glamorous life, nothing new of course, i thought he was just a bit different than the others, fooled me..
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OneEyedJoe
When I first left the cult I did a quick google search about this guy out of curiosity and came across a hilariously ironic article (I think written by some baptist organization) and basically every criticism made it sound less like a cult, because he preaches things that contradict a lot of the bible's more culty passages. He's a motivational speaker, so all the sowing self-doubt (the heart is wicked, who can know it) and exclusivity (one-and-only path to god stuff) gets left out.
Now that doesn't mean his church isn't a cult, but it's at least got different methods from most christian cults. Also, him not opening his church to refugees doesn't mean he's a cult, either...it just shows that he's in it for the money, which shouldn't be a surprise to anyone.
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"Secret Sins"... a catalyst for change both negative and positive
by silentbuddha ini have been completely out for close to 5 years and i have spent alot of time with individuals who either left or are in the process of leaving.
whenever we get to talking about what made you leave or what was it that made the flip switch, the initial answer is some doctrinal teaching.
in other instances it was just sorrow or a variety of other things.. however, as you get closer to many of these individuals it was generally a secret sin they committed at the root of it all.
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The concept of a secret sin interfering with someone's prayers always baffled me. They beat it in to you that you're always sinning in sufficient degree to be deserving of death, so why would porn or drinking be so much worse than just your usual day-to-day stuff?
In any event, no secret sin here. It was purely my being disillusioned with the doctrine that lead to me to start researching stuff. Now, sins committed after I left is a while other story.
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White supremacy is an ideology of peace
by OneEyedJoe ini'm tired of hearing these constant attacks on white supremacists after the events in charlottesville.
why are moderate white supremacists being lumped in together and sharing the blame for the actions of one reprehensible man that misinterpreted the ideals of white supremacy and became violent?
clearly the motivation of such attacks on white supremacists is nothing other than racism.
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By the way, LoL! Can't believe you felt the need to explain it was a parody!
Apparently not only was this needed, but apparently I should've led with it and put it in bold.
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"Smash The Old World"
by cofty induring mao's cultural revolution images of the past were destroyed by the red guard.
temples and churches were looted and religious statues destroyed.. this image was taken by li zhengshen at the jile temple in august 1966. the sign on the wall translates as "smash the old world".. will the left never learn?.
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Studies abound to prove whatever you want Cofty
Terrific. Find a study that proves the opposite and it'll nullify cofty's point. Until then, your argument is nothing more than inflation of conflict and has the side effect of proving too much - that no studies are useful when discussing anything.
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Just when you thought things couldn't get any lower ...
by Tallon innow they are really scraping the barrel.
check out this discussion on exjw reddit .... https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6v85y9/pioneer_school_today/?st=j6nwx7ny&sh=136a59c9.
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Probably the type of thing they would not dare to put in print..... I wish they did. Most Jdubs would say that this is a lie.
They'd say it's a lie if you told them it had been said, but if they saw it in print, they'd regard it as a loving reminder from their god that will help them to think in a way that makes it easier to maintain their loyalty to god.
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interesting EX-CO AMA ( Ask Me Anything) over on exjwreddit
by Diogenesister inex-circuit overseer here, ama.
https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/6usaky/excircuit_overseer_here_ama/.
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I was intrigued that it shook him that a little admin mistake could slip through (with the 17 yr old elder) and where was the holy spirit - yet what about all the witnesses who died in the KH in a Filipino typhoon??? That's so typical for all of us, we often miss the big stuff yet the things that affect us the most, no matter how small, often wake US in the end.
I think this is so common (for instance, I've seen many here, including myself, mention the beard issue as instrumental in their awakening) because our emotions are too late to the party to prevent us from thinking things through. Start to think about where was god when a bunch of JWs died and your emotions immediately kick in due to the loss of life - how dare you even think that their death might be meaningless!?!? But when you think about something small, that doesn't have any obvious implications, where there's no obvious victim, then you can really think it through and if/when your emotions start to get involved you're too far down the road to turn back.
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White supremacy is an ideology of peace
by OneEyedJoe ini'm tired of hearing these constant attacks on white supremacists after the events in charlottesville.
why are moderate white supremacists being lumped in together and sharing the blame for the actions of one reprehensible man that misinterpreted the ideals of white supremacy and became violent?
clearly the motivation of such attacks on white supremacists is nothing other than racism.
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They only reason your ideas appear to withstand scrutiny is because "popular" board members have your same viewpoint
That's a fair point. While I don't agree that consensus creates truth, I can see how some might be concerned about expressing their pro-islam views on this forum due to some of the history of this site. I'm genuinely interested if I'm missing some significant divergence between my satirical defense of white supremacy and any defense of islam. If anyone sees something that I'm missing (other than the minor points of divergence that I highlighted in the original post) I would gladly hear it over PM. I won't share names of anyone who sends me anything, but (with your permission) if there's a pro-islam argument that doesn't also imply a pro-white supremacist argument, I'll gladly come back here and point out where I've failed.
I try to be persuadable and I started this thread when listening to NPR this morning and heard a strongly anti-white supremacist spot followed up by a promo for a later piece which consisted in part of muslims complaining about being criticized because of muslim extremists. It struck me that there doesn't seem to be any real difference in the associated mindsets and so I posted this. I'm genuinely interested if anyone can point out something that I'm missing.
The last thing I want is for someone to feel like they have to withold their opinion because of the backlash of a group, however right that group might be. This is why free speech is important - not just so that those that might be wrongly oppressed can speak out but also so that those with ridiculous views might express them, have them honestly criticized and (hopefully) adjust them accordingly. Obviously we all assume we're in the right, as I'm doing now, but I'm open to criticism and want those that disagree with me to feel free to express their disagreement and have an honest conversation without fear of personal attack, or other bad faith arguments.
Weird, I guess I can sometimes be an optimist.
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White supremacy is an ideology of peace
by OneEyedJoe ini'm tired of hearing these constant attacks on white supremacists after the events in charlottesville.
why are moderate white supremacists being lumped in together and sharing the blame for the actions of one reprehensible man that misinterpreted the ideals of white supremacy and became violent?
clearly the motivation of such attacks on white supremacists is nothing other than racism.
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OneEyedJoe
Tell me this is satire please.
I did. In the first post.
The problem with comments of more than two paragraphs is that... well... they are too long. I missed that part (it's satire) and many likely did, and many likely will. We should avoid trying to write essays in a time when there's so many distractions and our attention span is short.
Yeah. Lets all just try to communicate on twitter in short anonymous bursts to people who'll either nod along or react with outrage and dig into their views ever deeper. That's the solution.
It was 3 paragraphs and a footnote. I get that people don't want to read everything on the internet, but what confuses me is the desire to comment on everything regardless of whether they've actually taken the time to understand it.