Posts by darkspilver

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GB member Geoffrey Jackson going apostate

by darkspilver in

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yes, it's true, geoffrey jackson, the cleverest member of the governing body, is going apostate.. he's already written two scholarly books, the question is .... when is his third book going to be released!!.....

desirousofchange: "faded" is definitely only an "apostate" term.

i don't know of it being used by wt publications or "in the dark" jwsberrygerry: geoff jackson used it during the arc..

darkspilver

Hi steve2

When was the last time GJ was featured in a JW org video or gave an address at a JW convention?

Exactly, that's the point, when was the last time???.....

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JW convention hallo for sale

by Gorbatchov in

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on of the two dutch convention halls is for sale .

official jw website for sale .

https://congreshal.nl/.

darkspilver

Hi Gorbatchov

On of the two Dutch convention halls is for sale
Official JW website for sale
https://congreshal.nl/

Yes, thanks, we know, a couple of days ago.... the jehovahs-witness.com chariot moves fast, try to keep up

https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5476110760411136/dutch-jw-convention-hall-sale

BTW How's the search of your computer's hard drive going??

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Spain: 5 police complaint on JW in one month

by sp74bb in

weblink:.

http://www.elperiodico.com/es/noticias/sociedad/cinco-denuncias-testigos-jehova-5632503 .

guillem sànchez / barcelona.

darkspilver

My police report went to the Judge but as abuse claim was more than 10 or 15 years ago this part is prescribed

Except apparently the episode that you reported, when you where 16 - as you yourself told the El Periodico newspaper - took place in Belgium, NOT Spain....

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UK TV: The Fastest Growing Branch of Chistianity in UK Today

by darkspilver in

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pentecostalism is now the largest christian faith in london.

what is it about this rapidly growing religion that makes it so appealing?.

black-majority pentecostal churches in particular are one of the big success stories of the black community in britain.

darkspilver

Pentecostalism is now the largest Christian faith in London. What is it about this rapidly growing religion that makes it so appealing?

Black-majority Pentecostal churches in particular are one of the big success stories of the black community in Britain. Their numbers are rising faster than any other Christian faith, while the Church of England is seeing its congregation shrinking.

Life And Death The Pentecostal Way gives us unprecedented access to the congregation and staff of one of the first Caribbean Black-majority Pentecostal churches in this country - Brixton New Testament Church of God - to discover how this religion has been so successful. We witness its charismatic sermons, passionate worshipping, the full-immersion baptism of teenagers and the fabulous hats and attire of the characterful older members of the congregation.

This one-hour observational documentary follows the stories of members of the congregation at defining moments in their lives. Through powerful personal stories it lift's the lid on a vibrant faith that is fast becoming one of the dominant religions in Britain.

Life And Death The Pentecostal Way

Today, Sunday 20 November 2016 - BBC Two: 9.00pm to 10.00pm UK-wide

Tomorrow, Monday 21 November 2016 - BBC Two: 11.15pm to 12.15am - England HD only
Tomorrow, Monday 21 November 2016 - BBC Two: 11.30pm to 12.30am - Wales
Tomorrow, Monday 21 November 2016 - BBC Two: 11.45pm to 12.45am - Scotland

And afterwards, on demand via iplayer - http://www.bbc.co.uk/bbctwo

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HQ move; a good thing?

by Half banana in

so the new jw hq is to be in warwick and no longer that bleak architectural fixture on the brooklyn skyline.

actually it makes more sense after all, upstate new york is a more suitable place to have a unicorn ranch than in a city.

but it is just as easy to produce a drizzle of fairy dust out in the country as it had been in ny.

darkspilver

Actually it makes more sense after all that upstate New York is a more suitable place to have a unicorn ranch.

because everyone knows that Dinosaurs will never go extinct in upstate New York??

http://www.dinosaurbarbque.com/

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GB member Geoffrey Jackson going apostate

by darkspilver in

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yes, it's true, geoffrey jackson, the cleverest member of the governing body, is going apostate.. he's already written two scholarly books, the question is .... when is his third book going to be released!!.....

desirousofchange: "faded" is definitely only an "apostate" term.

i don't know of it being used by wt publications or "in the dark" jwsberrygerry: geoff jackson used it during the arc..

darkspilver

berrygerry: Aug 14, 2015 transcript, page 15981

Cool thanks!

And think about it - I mean when was the last time Geoffrey Jackson was featured on tv.jw.org ??

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GB member Geoffrey Jackson going apostate

by darkspilver in

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friends

yes, it's true, geoffrey jackson, the cleverest member of the governing body, is going apostate.. he's already written two scholarly books, the question is .... when is his third book going to be released!!.....

desirousofchange: "faded" is definitely only an "apostate" term.

i don't know of it being used by wt publications or "in the dark" jwsberrygerry: geoff jackson used it during the arc..

darkspilver

Yes, it's true, Geoffrey Jackson, the cleverest member of the Governing Body, is going apostate.

He's already written TWO scholarly books, the question is .... when is his THIRD book going to be released!!....

DesirousOfChange: "faded" is definitely only an "apostate" term. I don't know of it being used by WT publications or "in the dark" JWs
berrygerry: Geoff Jackson used it during the ARC.

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Christian Longo on death row – is he up for a new trial?

by Bonnie_Clyde in

for those who don’t remember, longo was a life-long witness (even a one-time ministerial servant) who strangled and/or drowned his wife, mary jane, and their three children, zachery, sadie and madison.

longo has been on death row in marion county, oregon, since 2003.. http://www.biography.com/people/christian-longo.

well, yesterday i talked to a woman who works with one of mary jane’s sisters who told me that longo was coming up for a new trial.

darkspilver

Here's another fundraising page

https://www.payit2.com/fundraiser/87866

I do NOT know if this is legit - I am therefore ONLY posting the link because....

There is a means of contact the originator of the appeal - which seems to have only very recently been started - perhaps try that?

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"Watchtower Beliefs Clarified", JW.ORG site Ripe for the Picking.

by FatFreek 2005 in

i can just hear them now.

oh, how wonderful that the faithful and discreet slave is by going to bat for us against those wicked apostates who are always trying to dig up mud, especially from the older publications.

hey, they even go all the way back to the year 1870. hey, they even concede, with this timeline, the triple flip-flop of changes that the superior authorities teaching was changed to position no.

darkspilver

I'm surprised this new(-ish) feature hasn't gotten more traction

Let's review....

The OP refers to the Watchtower 15 February 2017, page 26, paragraph 12 - from a study article that most congregations will be studying the weekend of 29/30 April

Note near the start: "the Watch Tower Publications Index includes the heading “Beliefs Clariﬁed,” which lists adjustments in our Scriptural understanding since 1870."

The OP then linked to the WOL version of this (the 1986-2015 Index) at: http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200277174

The 2001 - 2015 Index (you need pages 46-47) is available to download as a printed PDF version at: https://download-a.akamaihd.net/files/media_books/59/dx01-15_E.pdf

Now this is when it starts to get interesting, or maybe not....

The 'Beliefs Clarified' heading does not seem to appear in any earlier print Indexes - BUT it does appear as a heading in the CD-ROM version of the both the 1930-1985 and 1986-2015 Indexes - ie the heading has been added

There is downside - the Indexes only index the information published in the years they are indexing although that information is about earlier years

ie the 1986-2015 Index will only make references to publications in those years

So, for the year 1872 the Indexes reference

Index 1986-2013
1872, ransom: jv 718

Index 1930-1985
1872, Lord’s return: jp 15; w34 11

As the 1986-2015 is available online at http://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200277174

FYI, below is a screen shot from the CD-ROM of the 1930-1985 Index

BTW, this has also been partly discussed previously here https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/273008/new-light-beliefs-clarified

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Fiji: Tears of joy for villagers

by darkspilver in

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from the fiji times.

see also https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5673136815079424/fiji-houses-built-love.

tears of joy for villagers.

darkspilver

That is insurance fraud. Illegal.

how so? the insurance would pay out to the level of cover they had, to rebuild to standard that previously exisited?

normally quotes would be required and a final bill/invoice for the building works submitted for the pay out

they're not claiming (extra) insurance money to build a better house - that would be fraud - but the practicality according to the newspaper article is that they got better houses built than the original, the insurance wouldn't pay for the improvement

And of course, it also depends if the householder/s actually got insurance

Also remember this is a national emergency situation.

And a previous article highlighted that apparently the householders were able to return their M-Paisa cards (mobile money transfer cards?) to the Government so that others could benefit instead

Mr Coffin added that some of the families affected badly and had initially applied for the Fijian Government's Help for Home initiative, have returned their M-Paisa cards to the Ministry of Social Welfare and Poverty Alleviation. "It is a loving gesture on the part of these members who were left homeless by TC Winston, as returning their M-Paisa cards would allow the Fijian Government to offer assistance to a lot more people who also needed help.
http://www.fijitimes.com/story.aspx?id=378222