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  Let’s Speculate!!!

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you know the organization is slowly going down.

  not as fast as we would wish, but nevertheless it is crumbling.

  five (5) year old child baptisms, smaller magazines, child sexual abuse exposed, smaller annual growth, no one wants to reach out, young ones leaving.

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  2014 for the beginning of Christ's reign; because the watchtower forgot to 'carry the 1'

  Ha ha ha ha ha ha.........love this sort of humour. It's as droll as it gets.

  You are definitely going to get roasted at the big A......
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  Let’s Speculate!!!

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you know the organization is slowly going down.

  not as fast as we would wish, but nevertheless it is crumbling.

  five (5) year old child baptisms, smaller magazines, child sexual abuse exposed, smaller annual growth, no one wants to reach out, young ones leaving.

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  The studies I have had with the elder and his wife.....( RC have encouraged me to cease allowing these visits due to the anxiety I have felt for being two faced)..... have cast off the Revelation book as no longer accurate, so many other books are not remotely referred to. So they are completely distancing themselves from as many of their past writings as is possible.

  I know I have said this already, but it's been said to me by those who are very much in, that the large assemblies are cancelled here in Australia. At least in the West. When I asked why this was so, I was told that it was due to lack of funds. It is apparently too expensive to rent the venues that have always been a part of the yearly large conventions. (again, all this information was said to me before my official RC part)

  This is so interesting as all my life, whether I was attending or not, there have always been very large conventions here. Now, they are being done at the WT owned facility, a place that is really hard to get to. It's incredibly difficult for families with children and older people. Plus, I think that if any new interested ones were left to find their own way there,..it would be completely off putting......unless there is some serious conversion thingy happening.....
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  Let’s Speculate!!!

  by John Aquila in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you know the organization is slowly going down.

  not as fast as we would wish, but nevertheless it is crumbling.

  five (5) year old child baptisms, smaller magazines, child sexual abuse exposed, smaller annual growth, no one wants to reach out, young ones leaving.

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  Oh, FayeDunaway, I should read your story. Sorry that I have not. I didn't know you have been cut off from your' family. This sort of simple comment makes me ache inside.

  Therefore I hope the Watchtower implodes. You should have the freedom to have your' family. I lost mine from a long time ago. Not all of them, but in the main I can say with total honesty that never in my life, have I been invited by my JW madly devoted sister to have one single meal with them. Even when I was close to baptism.

  Some are harder than others. Mostly though, they have an entrenched feeling they are breaking the GB law by having non witnesses in their homes.....
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  A small update on the ongoing investigation by the Royal Commission

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think you people would like to know that since the public hearing has finished.

  there has been ongoing contact made to me by the staff at the rc.

  they have been inundated with calls and the same experiences or similar ones are being related.. the staff are not backwards in coming forwards with insights that they have shared.

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  I don't know what sort of shepherding is being done. It may be with a cattle prod for all I know. I think the RC just caused a bit of a reaction here in that they may be looking up some of those "women or men" who suffered or have faded. Not sure at all......still, in all it's good to know things are ticking along......
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  Whoa ! maybe it's not as good here in Oz as I thought!

  by wozza in

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  found this on my facebook page that someone had posted , just a joke i hope .

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  That's just some joke, really. The Arms. are the ones hanging off the shoulders
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  A small update on the ongoing investigation by the Royal Commission

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think you people would like to know that since the public hearing has finished.

  there has been ongoing contact made to me by the staff at the rc.

  they have been inundated with calls and the same experiences or similar ones are being related.. the staff are not backwards in coming forwards with insights that they have shared.

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  Elders from the congregations are doing shepherding calls. Some who have phoned the RC are saying this is happening. I don't know the figures though.
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  badly handled from Elders

  by Olivia Wilde in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i am still attending the kh, i actually recently became aware of the ttatt, what i believed came as a huge surprised for me, i wasn't raised as a jw and have been for about 15 years.

  i have always been a very open minded individual all my life always seeing both sides of any situation with logic and common sense and so i believe discovering all of the doctrines i have been taught sense 16 years of age, wasn't extremely hard for me to realize in my heart it was a lie.

  well it was me discovering the watchtower society being a ngo member of the un nations for 10 years, after that the snowball just got bigger for me.

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  wing commander. I see you feel rather strongly about this and other experiences.

  I don't think you would do this, but I do get the "gist" of your feelings.........(.a touch of irony)

  Therefore I can't slap a red sign against you......I really hope you are just expressing a verbal reaction though....ha!
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  A small update on the ongoing investigation by the Royal Commission

  by umbertoecho in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i think you people would like to know that since the public hearing has finished.

  there has been ongoing contact made to me by the staff at the rc.

  they have been inundated with calls and the same experiences or similar ones are being related.. the staff are not backwards in coming forwards with insights that they have shared.

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  I think you people would like to know that since the public hearing has finished. There has been ongoing contact made to me by the staff at the RC. They have been inundated with calls and the same experiences or similar ones are being related.

  The staff are not backwards in coming forwards with insights that they have shared. For example, some of the people who have called in are suddenly getting these "Shepherding Calls". Quite a few actually, so I was told. Many of these people are a bit intimidated or wondering what to do. They are given advice and follow up calls to make sure they are handling things okay.

  This advice includes their legal right, there rights as individuals, the right not to feel in some way intimidated by this sudden interest in their waning faith. Not once have I been cast off or left wondering what was going on behind the scenes. The lines are constantly busy in the aftermath of this particular RC.

  I have complete trust since these follow up's are not a one off thing. People are asking for help and getting it......
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  I've heard 2 people have found the RC hearings

  by Dagney in

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  one "brother" was just texting me how good the regional convention was 2 days ago, when today it was "did you see what is happening in australia?

  jackson was interviewed!

  " lolololol.

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  It may not be news worthy in many countries, but I'd love to be a fly on the wall in all the Bethel boardrooms.

  It's on the net. It's transcribed in word or pdf on the RC site. It's there for ever. I'm very very bloody happy about that. It is good substantial material from a very public and government approved Public Platform. I feel all fluffy at times when I click on RC JW or child...abuse RC...Up come the media, the sites, the video's. Something about us humans that I do like, is our curiosity. There will be those who would perhaps remain forever in the dark, then one day something will piss them off and they will go to the net and find this wealth of information...Not from some apostate site, but from a government site. I was terrified a few years ago...........not now though......
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  For All Australians Present: How are Australian JWs Reacting to the Royal Commission?

  by Littleleslie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  hi everyone:.

  i was just wondering how were the baptized jehovah's witnesses responding to the royal commission inquiry.. i know there must be a number of australians present here that could tell us this.. i was especially wanting to know how the jehovah's witnesses were taking the testimony of the governing body member geoffrey jackson?.

  thanks for your comments.. littleleslie .

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  Oh, forgot; the elder I queried said......:" It's a lot easier than I thought it was going to be...much easier. There won't be any problems....". ( This was after the first few days, before the heat was turned up)

  Next time I asked about their feelings.......Zero comment. They moved right on past that one.

  Justice McClellan, Angus Stewart, the lawyers representing the victims, were flaying them on every lie. They did NOT like it at all. So, I never heard another comment....wonder why?