1 John 4:1

by mjl 35 Replies latest watchtower bible

  • Poztate
    Poztate
    Gary, you have got to be kidding me, that was actually said from a platform? These people are even more far gone than I remember

    They do live in their own little world.

    Here is a link to the whole talk from Quotes site.

    http://quotes.watchtower.ca/bewarethevoiceofstrangers.htm

    I have been a JW for 40 + years, and I can say outright that we have always been taught to examine what we are told. I am preparing an essay to post here to show just that.
    Good Luck...I won't be holding my breath waiting for it
  • upside/down
    upside/down
    July 12, 2003

    How ironic, that's my birthday (well one of em anyhow)

    u/d

  • IP_SEC
    IP_SEC

    Ha thats kinda funny, be like the noble minded boreans... whats that? Your testing of our (insert dogma/doctrine here) dont fit the bible? Why you little evil slave, apostate.

    A brother about 2 weeks ago durning his PT "The real armagedon" used Ezekiel 2:5 to prove that the dubs arent false prophets. LOL it was all i could do not to laugh out loud.

    Yeppers once the big A does come all them dozens of false prophecys aint gonna mean a thing. Tell you what!

  • moanzy
    moanzy

    JW's would never be able to research anything except with its only publications, otherwise none of it would make any sense!

  • gumby
    gumby

    JWBen.....your going to get a verbal asskicking if you do. You have no idea. You fool, you can think all you want as a dub, but if you act on it or vocalise it....your ass is grass AND YOU KNOW IT! Stop acting like a damn troll.

    Gumby

  • trevor
    trevor
    test the inspired expressions to see whether they origanate with God,

    This is a contradictory statement. If the expression is 'inspired,' then it must originate from God. That is what 'inspired' means in his context.

    What the Bethal Boppers want you to do, is to examine what they say and then allow your pre-programmed mind to conclude that they are right every time. Any answer will do as long as it is 'yes - thank you for that spiritual food.' A slave must be grateful for his masters provisions.

    I hope this has helped to correct your rebellious thinking.

  • rwagoner
    rwagoner

    Somebody recently used the example of buying a new car....

    You wouldn't just talk to the salesman and trust what he said....or the factory rep for the car manufacturer...

    You'd read "Consumer Reports" and research online for recalls and check "carfax" to see if that car was a junker....

    Why then would anyone blindly accept just one side of the story from a printing corporation who claims to be God's voice on earth and dishes out religious advise....just saying it even sounds comical.

    I mean I know I believed it for about 20 years but even I smartened up eventually LOL

  • blondie
    blondie

    Good luck, JWBen. (BTW this was the only time the WTS applied this scripture (Acts 17:11) this way and it was during the "apostate" witchhunt of the 1980's)

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    w81 2/15 pp. 18-19 Do We Need Help to Understand the Bible? ***

    To help us to understand God?s Word in these "last days," Jehovah God has lovingly provided a visible organization under Christ?the "faithful and discreet slave." The way Jehovah God has prospered the activities carried on under its direction can leave no doubt in the minds of dedicated Christians as to Jehovah God?s approval being upon it.?Matt. 24:45-47

    A NOBLE-MINDED VIEW

    How shall we view the spiritual food provided by this "faithful and discreet slave"? Should it be viewed critically??Oh, well, it might be true but then again it might not be and so we have to scrutinize it very critically?? Some apparently have felt that way about it. To support their way of thinking they have quoted Acts 17:11, which says of newly interested persons at Beroea: "Now the latter were more noble-minded than those in Thessalonica, for they received the word with the greatest eagerness of mind, carefully examining the Scriptures daily as to whether these things were so."

    But does this mean that those Beroeans were looking for flaws in the message they were hearing, or that their attitude was one of doubting? Does this set a precedent for regarding critically the publications brought forth by the "faithful and discreet slave," with a view to finding fault? Not at all!

    First of all, let us note the setting of the statement about the noble-minded Beroeans. Paul, accompanied by Silas, was on his second missionary tour. Due to persecution that arose, the brothers at Thessalonica sent them on to Beroea. In Beroea they met sincere Jews who had strong faith in God?s Word. These were not Christians yet. They were simply interested persons who had to satisfy themselves that what Paul was telling them had the support of the Hebrew Scriptures.

    Up to this time, these devout Jews in Beroea may never have heard of Jesus Christ. What Paul was telling them was entirely new. So those noble-minded Jews in Beroea searched the Scriptures daily to make certain that the references that Paul gave were really part of God?s Word. And with what mental attitude did they pursue their studies? With a skeptical attitude, trying to prove Paul wrong? No, they were altogether unlike Paul?s critics on Mars Hill, for we read that they heard Paul?s testimony with "the greatest eagerness of mind."?Acts 17:11, 32.

    These Beroeans listened with a readiness, yes, an eagerness, to believe. Thus not only were they open-minded, but they were wanting to have this "good news" proved true. In fact, for a person to acquire faith he must have "the will to believe." If he is determined not to believe, then no amount of evidence will convince him; for if a person looks for them he can always find excuses, plausible reasons for not accepting the accountability that belief will bring upon him. As the apostle Paul well said: "Faith is not a possession of all people." (2 Thess. 3:2) But the Beroeans had the will to believe. They considered what they heard with a receptive frame of mind. As a result, "many of them became believers, and so did not a few of the reputable Greek women and of the men."?Acts 17:12.

    Jesus? disciples wrote many letters to Christian congregations, to persons who were already in "the way of the truth." (2 Pet. 2:2) But nowhere do we read that those brothers first, in a skeptical frame of mind, checked the Scriptures to make certain that those letters had Scriptural backing, that the writers really knew what they were talking about.

    OUR VIEW OF THE "SLAVE"

    We can benefit from this consideration. If we have once established what instrument God is using as his "slave" to dispense spiritual food to his people, surely Jehovah is not pleased if we receive that food as though it might contain something harmful. We should have confidence in the channel God is using. At the Brooklyn headquarters from which the Bible publications of Jehovah?s Witnesses emanate there are more mature Christian elders, both of the "remnant" and of the "other sheep," than anywhere else upon earth.

    True, the brothers preparing these publications are not infallible. Their writings are not inspired as are those of Paul and the other Bible writers. (2 Tim. 3:16) And so, at times, it has been necessary, as understanding became clearer, to correct views. (Prov. 4:18) However, this has resulted in a continual refining of the body of Bible-based truth to which Jehovah?s Witnesses subscribe. Over the years, as adjustments have been made to that body of truth, it has become ever more wonderful and applicable to our lives in these "last days." Bible commentators of Christendom are not inspired either. Despite their claims to great knowledge, they have failed to highlight even basic Bible truths?such as the coming Paradise earth, the importance of God?s name, and the condition of the dead.

    Rather, the record that the "faithful and discreet slave" organization has made for the past more than 100 years forces us to the conclusion that Peter expressed when Jesus asked if his apostles also wanted to leave him, namely, "Whom shall we go away to?" (John 6:66-69) No question about it. We all need help to understand the Bible, and we cannot find the Scriptural guidance we need outside the "faithful and discreet slave" organization.

  • ozziepost
    ozziepost
    just wait for my essay if you have the patients to do so

    I hope you use a Spellchecker when writing your "essay".

  • mjl
    mjl

    JW Ben, like you I too have been a JW for my whole life, 30+ years. You and I know the only research you are encouraged to do is using Insight on the Scriptures, the Reasoning book, and the Watchtower. Tell me if I?m wrong. You know I?m not. How many times have we been warned about "critical thinking?"

    MJL

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