Urgent! Need help - I told my parents.

by filip 311 Replies latest jw friends

  • Incense_and_Peppermints

    Filip, you have a PM.

    lol. not really. i just wanted to see FIN get all freaked out...

  • kaykay_mp
    As I said before ... get out of here!!!!

    Yeah, AFIN:

    like you're a forum assistant or the administrator of this website. Yep, you sure taught him a lesson. and while you're at it, tell the other teenagers to leave too.

    Geez. Let me buy some boots so I can shake in them.



  • filip

    afin what do you mean? just because I replied to logansrun topic about phone sex, that has nothing to do with me getting involved with porn.

    youre right, I am not sorry for my "gutter" talk, cause I was being sarcastic. I dont think "gutter" talk is wrong, so what do I have to be sorry for.

    I dont think this site only is for adults. I can think for myself as much as anybody else, even if Im only 15 years old, and for the matter of fact, I think most 15 year olds can.

    I dont have any hard feelings afin, I know you want me to listen to the bible and JW, but the ones on this site wants me to the opposite. In the end it all comes down to the faith. Were all just people, someone have one oppinion, others have another opnion, especially with religion.

    Its just for me to find out.


  • Big Tex
    Big Tex
    Be glad you aren't my son, if I found out you were doing this behind my back. You think you have troubles now!

    Wow AFIN, what a loving attitude you are displaying. Certainly indicative of Jehovah's Witnesses, who know only conditional love eh?

    I've got two children. God knows I've made mistakes with mine, and before they are grown I guarantee I will make more. Having said that, I love my children unconditionally. There is nothing they could do that would change how I feel toward them. I teach them truths, my truths, one of which is that God's love is inclusive, rather than exclusive. In other words, you don't have to be special, or earn his love through numbers, i.e. number of hours in field service, number of meetings attended, number of comments made and so on. God's love, I believe, is a gift given freely and without conditions.

    But I have enough respect for my children to allow them to choose their own way. My daughter has recently begun expressing an interest in Buddhism, and I encourage that. It's not what I would want for her, but she's not far from filip's age and she needs to choose her own way. What I want for my children is for them to grow up, and be the people they want to be, not the peope I want them to be. As a parent, my job is to start them on their path, provide support and then ... let them go live their life.

    I don't know filip, he seems like a good kid who is troubled. I submit to you the fact that he feels the need to share his doubts about a high control sect, and his fears about his parents' rejection, says more about the parents than the child. He is clearly facing a difficult decision. Not whether Jehovah's Witnesses are the way for him, as you are trying to spin the thread, but rather how does he tell his parents that sect is not for him? I think it's a very difficult problem, one made more difficult by the guilt hooks you consistently throw out.

    I hope his mother and father care for him and show him their love is unconditional, not dependent on what sect he belongs to.

    Did you read Ephesians 6:1,2 &3? Is that message also too unfair for you?

    This is disturbing. Not the scripture, but that you felt the need to throw this out. Your organization is little more than a religious Amway more interested in numbers and money than people. I have no doubt you disagree, and if you wish to debate the point I will be more than happy to do so on another thread. Just realize that just because you believe a certain way, doesn't make it so.

    If I were to ask filip to read any scripture, it would be the 13th chapter of 1 Corinthians, and my advice to him would be to seek out friends, partners, companions and religions (if he's so inclined) that show the one characteristic talked about. By their actions, Jehovah's Witnesses show to anyone willing to see, they have no understanding, or interest in this chapter.

    Be well.


  • 144001

    AFIN: You really ought to be ashamed for trying to bully Filip on this board, as well as for your despicable (and unsuccessful) effort to defend the physical and mental abuse of children. You are a true reflection of the cult you follow.

  • Big Tex
    Big Tex
    You should get out of here because you don't belong here. This is an adult site ... there may be one for your age group. I'm sure any mod could let you know


    I am one of the moderators on this discussion board. I see no problem with Filip posting here. If you have a problem with that, you are welcome to take the issue up with Simon. He is the admin.

  • Incense_and_Peppermints
    Its just for me to find out.

    "When you can remove the pebble from my hand, it will be time for you to leave".

    i think i'll call you Grasshopper.

    Kung Fu - Desert Dunes

    "I was thinking." - Caine, asked if his meditating was a prayer
    "I seek only to become a cup. Empty of myself. Filled with oneness." - Caine
    "Evil cannot be conquered in the world...It can only be resisted within oneself." - Master Po
    "It accomplished nothing." - Caine, on a fight
    "I do not know your bible but our sage Lao-Tzu has said, "A wise man does not contend therefore no one can contend against him. Yield and overcome." - Caine
    "What will happen will happen whether one is afraid or not." - Caine
    "You think wisdom is a flower for you to pluck. It is a mountain and it must be climbed." - Caine
    "Time is carving you...,let yourself be shaped according to your true nature." - Master Po
    "I seek to rule nothing save myself." - Caine
    "I have a path. I seek not to change it but to follow it." - Caine

  • sf

    Simple question for the parents of teenagers in this thread:

    What if it were your teenager logging into, what is in fact, a mostly adult forum and discussing YOUR parenting of said teen with complete strangers? What if said teen was going around your town, talking to complete strangers regarding your family dynamics?

    Just asking.

    I know for sure that if it were my teenage daughter, (which is not, in fact, allowed on the internet unless I'm in the room), there would be a serious discussion on approaching strangers...whether online or off.

    There are predators everywhere. All it takes is for one of these strangers to zero in on this kids 'needs' and family problems and prey on such vulnerabilities. And it is clear that most teens have no clue on what the signs of a predator are.

    Keep that in mind.

    This kids father could very easily cry foul here and think that any one of you could be causing dissention and alienation.

    Just my thoughts... take them or as I already know some of you have done...leave them.


  • Incense_and_Peppermints
    What if it were your teenager logging into, what is in fact, a mostly adult forum and discussing YOUR parenting of said teen with complete strangers? What if said teen was going around your town, talking to complete strangers regarding your family dynamics?

    the first thing i would do is ask myself what am i doing wrong that my son felt he couldn't come to me with his problems... but then again, i didn't raise my son in a milieu of oppression, fear and distrust. i can hardly call the advice and honest answers to Fillip's questions "predatory". so what should we as ex-witnesses, do, then, when someone, any one, comes seeking answers? tell them to go away because they are too young?

  • a friend in need
    a friend in need

    Nice to meet you ... Mod.

    So you think the subject of phone-sex is appropriate for a 15 year old? Maybe you are right ... times are changing and my mind is still set in biblical times. Do you think (if there was such a thing at the time) that Jesus would condone it? (even for adults).

    I Cor. 13 is a personal favorite of mine too. I see it as a loving thing to try and get Filip out of here.

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