jwsurvey.org blocked me from their website

by skittles 69 Replies latest members adult

  • skittles
    skittles

    I don't know how many of you frequent that website but I got blocked simply for raising questions about their reporting and how they compile the data from their survey.

    I think its really quite hypocritical for a website to write articles about how the organization is so damaging because of using propaganda and threats of expulsion if you don't fall in line with them and then to turn around and block commenters simply because they don't fall in line with you.

    You can read the comments, I literally just asked how they controlled for people lying on the survey.

  • Calebs Airplane
    Calebs Airplane

    That's your first comment on this site?

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  • skittles
    skittles

    @calebs

    im just a little incredulous to the fact that ceders makes himself to be a man of openness and reason but he blocks people from commenting on his site strictly based off of criticism of his writing. There is nothing that separates him from anyone else with a little power. You either get in line or get kicked out

  • Diogenesister
    Diogenesister

    Cedars is great in front of the camera but has a HUGE EGO.

    I hate the way he always challenges " well, if u think you can do better YOU become an activist and make videos". Not everyone has the confidence to get in front of the camera...there's a myriad of reasons it's Not always possible...But if you DO put yourself out there, be prepared for feedback...good and bad. Of course people can bullshit on those surveys, put in multiple accounts etc I think it's a reasonable question.

  • slimboyfat
    slimboyfat

    Using surveys as a quantitative method in the social sciences has a huge amount of theory behind it. I don't know how much of it cedars has read or how rigorous his methods are.

    A key problem with JW survey is that it presumably attracts a lot of former JWs and few active JWs. One also suspects that some who claim to be active JWs may not be. These are formidable challenges to conducting a rigorous survey, but they need not be fatal. In general in social science the key thing is not to conduct flawless research that has no weaknesses. That is always an unrealistic goal. The key thing is always to acknowledge the limitations of the research in full and not gloss over problematic aspects, even if this means that any conclusions drawn are necessarily more modest than one might wish.

  • Simon
    Simon

    Surveys and polls have a fantastic reputation, especially since the last election. President Hillary sure has a lot to thank those polls for ...

    Conducting meaningful and surveys is incredibly difficult. Even if you get good questions (they usually aren't) the way you select people to answer then is often fraught with challenges to get unbiased samplings. Phone people up? You're not asking anyone who chooses not to have a phone or is too busy to answer.

    I joked with a Microsoft rep once who was convinced that the ribbon-bar was awesome because they had done lots of focus groups. I told him their problem was they only asked people with nothing better to do that day than attend a focus groups and not people busy trying to do actual work that day.

    As SBF already pointed out, it unlikely that an internet poll, run on an apostate site, conducted when the internet was demonized by the WTS (and still is beyond their own site) would ever produce anything but self-congratulatory results. To claim it's scientific is frankly laughable.

    Cedars especially seems to have a very high opinion of himself and doesn't like anyone questioning his orthodoxy (not even challenging it, just asking for clarification can be enough). Lots of comments from his blog vanish or are blocked from appearing ... and yet he claims to be giving a voice to the "silent majority".

    We're not going to let his crap take over this forum again though. Not only does he sanction comments on his own site, he tries to do it here too by threatening to "ruin my reputation" if I allow people to comment about him.

  • OUTLAW
    OUTLAW

    Lots of comments from his blog vanish or are blocked from appearing ... and yet he claims to be giving a voice to the "silent majority".....Simon

    He does a better job of..

    Silencing the Voice of the Majority..

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    .....................Welcome to JWSurvey!

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  • Calebs Airplane
    Calebs Airplane

    Troll Alert! Troll Alert! Troll Alert!

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  • Thisismein1972
    Thisismein1972

    So finally we are seeing who this guy really is.

    This link should clarify a few things about who this guy is. He is in it for the money, and doesn't give a shit about those who are "waking up."

    https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/the-reluctant-apostate-religion#/ This is all for a book that has been in the making for over 2 years now, and it still hasn't been published. Although it is "tantalizingly close" to completion...This was said by him a year ago!

    On the subject of him silencing others. He is well known for doing this, even to the point of blackmailing others, as has been demonstrated by Simon. He had a part in blacklisting Marc and Cora, when they were about to be interviewed by a reporter.

    However, if anyone talks negative about this guy, those who literally worship him will go after that person. This might sound wild. But my observations of this guy has me thinking he is a cult leader in the making. He wants nothing more than to have a following akin to Jim Jones.

    Please do watch his video's, but for everyone's sake, DO NOT have any interaction with him. His ego is his downfall.

  • Thisismein1972
    Thisismein1972

    Calebs Airplane. Just because someone doesn't agree with how another person reacts, this does not make one a troll. In fact, I'd take a long hard look at yourself before posting silly memes. The great thing about breaking away from a cult is, we ALL have the ability of free speech, without the need for such name calling as you have used.

    Troll = Apostate...See the similarities here?

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