Awake #4/2016: Homosexuality

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  LoveUniHateExams

  I suppose if they had shown outrage it would have become outrage porn?

  I just clicked onto the home page of Pink News. Here are two examples of outrage or being judgemental in article titles:

  'Shockingly racist’ UKIP-backed Brexit ad features Donald Trump comparing migrants to snakes

  and

  Sadiq Khan does not want exemption from Trump’s ‘ignorant’ Muslim ban

  Pink News journalists can call UKIP 'shockingly racist' and Trump 'ignorant' but they are unwilling or unable to express outrage/condemnation or be judgemental when extremists throw gays of tall buildings.

  Why?!

  http://www.pinknews.co.uk/home/
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  slimboyfat

  As a discussion in its own right it would be fine. But why on this thread? Why in discussions about Western and Christian/JW attitudes to gay people? It often seems to serve the function: "stop talking and saying Christians in the West have a problem, look Muslims are even worse". Pretty cynical. As I mentioned above, Muslims in the US are more accepting of gay people than JWs or Evangelicals. 
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  LoveUniHateExams

  But why on this thread? - good point. You may be right, SBF. Although if I started a thread about Muslims and homophobia, no doubt a few morons would call me Islamophobic. 

  It often seems to serve the function: "stop talking and saying Christians in the West have a problem, look Muslims are even worse" - no. It's called getting a proper sense of perspective. Some posters on this forum lack this.

  Muslims in the US are more accepting of gay people than JWs or Evangelicals - and Muslims in the Middle East throw gays off tall buildings and stone them to death. In a thread about homophobia, it shouldn't be controversial or 'cynical' to point out this fact ...
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  slimboyfat

  One very small sect in the Middle East has thrown some people from buildings. This hardly characterises Muslims as a whole or Muslims in the Middle East.

  To claim this is somehow representative is about as accurate as saying that JWs are cereal murderers since the Yorkshire Ripper converted to JWs.

  As I pointed out above the Pew survey showed Muslims are far more accepting of gay people than JWs. I thought that was interesting!

  Many gay JWs and Christians are driven to suicide because of prejudice.

  So who really is lacking sense of proportion here?
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  punkofnice

  ttdtt - Unlike animals, they can choose not to act on their impulses.—Colossians 3:5. (So practicing homosexuals are like animals -nice)

  Perhaps the WBT$ refers to 'bears'
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  punkofnice

  It amazes me that the WBT$ is passively aggressivly being anti-gay (no surprises there from a faux fundie cult), but through their actions, allow paedophiles to thrive within their ranks. You woul;d have thought that if they were that anti anything sexual that they'd really stop the paedophile thing. But then I suspect they are protecting the higher ups (GB), within the WBT$ who may be paedophiles themselves.
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  snugglebunny

  It amazes me that the WBT$ is passively aggressivly being anti-gay (no surprises there from a faux fundie cult), but through their actions, allow paedophiles to thrive within their ranks. You woul;d have thought that if they were that anti anything sexual that they'd really stop the paedophile thing. But then I suspect they are protecting the higher ups (GB), within the WBT$ who may be paedophiles themselves.

  It's about protection alright, but protection from negative publicity. That's their main fear, so they just want to keep it all under wraps. They also need to be seen to doing the right thing, that's why all such cases get referred to HQ who then can decide what degree of hushing-up can be done without incriminating themselves legally.
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  LoveUniHateExams

  One very small sect in the Middle East has thrown some people from buildings. This hardly characterises Muslims as a whole or Muslims in the Middle East - I take it you're referring to ISIS. They aren't the only extremist scum. There's plenty more ...

  You've forgot to mention that The Nusra Front has systematically driven gay men out of its territory in Syria. Gay people were safer living under Assad.

  You've forgot to mention that any number of Saudi clerics agitate for the death penalty to be carried out against gay people.

  You've forgot to mention that a whole swathe of MENA countries still have homosexuality as illegal. In Saudi Arabia, Yemen, Iran, Mauritania and northern Nigeria (the part controlled by Muslims), it's capital punishment for the gays.

  who really is lacking sense of proportion here? - you and stupid people like you, without a shadow of a doubt.
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  cofty

  Channel 4 documentary last month showed that 52% of British Muslims do not believe that homosexuality should be legal in Britain.

  52% do not believe that homosexuality should be legal in Britain

  Q: To what extent you agree or disagree with each one: homosexuality should be legal in Britain?

  Net agree 18% (strongly agree 8%, tend to agree 10%)

  Net disagree: 52% (strongly disagree: 38%, tend to disagree: 14%)

  47% do not believe that it is acceptable for a school teacher to be homosexual

  Q: To what extent do you agree or disagree that it is acceptable for a homosexual person to be a teacher in a school?

  Net disagree: 47% (strongly disagree: 35%, tend to disagree: 12%)
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  cofty

  The Global Divide on Homosexuality - Pew Research...

  Overwhelming majorities in the predominantly Muslim countries surveyed also say homosexuality should be rejected, including 97% in Jordan, 95% in Egypt, 94% in Tunisia, 93% in the Palestinian territories, 93% in Indonesia, 87% in Pakistan, 86% in Malaysia, 80% in Lebanon and 78% in Turkey.