How many of you are health nuts?

by Harvard Illiterate 411 55 Replies latest jw friends

  • LisaRose
    LisaRose

    I eat organic when practical, depending on the cost difference and whether I am going to eat the peel of fruits and vegetables. Organic tastes better and has less pesticide residue, it's hard for me to feel pesticides are a good thing in the diet. I also feel it's better for the environment.

    There is a case in the news where A USDA inspector is out of a job because he started raising concerning about pesticides being the cause of the decrease in bee populations. They say it's because he didn't get prior approval for travel, although it's not uncommon for that to happen with others due to time constraints. It's obvious that big business doesn't want people to know the price of pesticides use.

  • StarTrekAngel
    StarTrekAngel

    I worked in a fairly large hospital for a few years. I was in IT, but I was fortunate enough to work closely with those in medical field. I did a lot of data gathering. While I am not going to say that I understood everything that was studied, I can tell you one thing. It was shocking to see the number of people that are dying of extremely preventable deceases at ages of less than 50. Those who survive, do so with such morbidity that I would rather be dead.

    I've always suffered from allergies and comes spring, I would lose work sometimes when the allergic reactions were too severe. I went to a specialist, she prescribed something that I could have gotten over the counter (but since I had insurance). I had some side effects (nausea, blurred vision). She prescribed something else but it was not nearly as effective as stopping the reactions. Not once did she recommend a change of lifestyle or any other alternatives to, not replace medication, but may be complement it. It was useless.

    Going back to my time in the hospital, I realized a couple of things. Whenever I had been invited to luncheons with doctors, there was no fried foods, no red meats and only natural teas to drink (made out of tea bags, no powder). Lots of veggies, fruits and salads ( and I am not referring to a Subway party tray). The vast majority were fit which also applied to many of the most experienced nursing staff. When participating in projects with them, they usually referred to patients with terms like cabbages (brain dead people in ICU). I found that to be a total lack of sensibility. So in my experience, the doctor tells you one thing but they practice another. When they do recommend lifestyle changes they simply repeat the old message (almost like a JW). "work out a sweat 20 min, 3 time a week and eat less food). Not to offend any doctors that may be around here. Please note that I am using words like "most" and "many", not "all doctors".

    So I decided to give it a try. I started exercising and eating better and I mean a quite radical change. I started taking the most researched natural supplements. (like krill oil, vitamin D, and the like). Within 3 months I had more energy, I would also sleep better and longer. When the next spring came around, the allergies were so mild I could hardly notice it. I have not had a single allergy attack since 2009. Even when exposed to some of the weeds I am allergic to. Placebo effect? Call it what you want but if it works and only has good side effects, then why not? Why is the medical field not doing more of this?

    I am not against medicine or science. But I have experienced first hand that the medical fields has done great strides in the science of alleviating the most life threatening medical conditions, so long they are not chronic. Transplants, trauma and injuries, etc. When it comes to the milder more chronic deceases, like diabetes, blood pressure, etc. Those they ride them on. I know because I provided the data that allowed them to milk insurance companies without crossing the line. There is no conspiracy, it is just the way it works.

    Why is it that all vitamin supplements read "these claims have not been verified by the FDA" despite not having any major side effects but most FDA approved medications have more serious side effects than the condition they are meant to treat?

    I think the answer is somewhere in the middle. A balance is important in all aspects of life and this is no exception. May be GMOs are not that bad and may be organics are overrated. Rather eat a GMO chicken day in and day out than sticking to nothing but beef because is all organic.

    In summary. I still respect and visit my doctor when I need it. I vaccinate my children. But I have come to realize that I needed to take the doc down from the pedestal I had them on and I that I needed to listen to the other side of the story as well.

  • Harvard Illiterate 411
    Harvard Illiterate 411

    Hurry! Balance is necessary! Thank you startrekangel for highlighting that!

    And to all of the negative commenters, I started this thread to discuss what ex JWs do for health now that they are free to practice what they will, not to barrage one another with cut throat reactions. I'm not selling anything here sweetheart.

  • Heaven
    Heaven

    Eating healthy foods, drinking clean water, breathing clean air, and exercising are very important to maintaining good health. I can tell you though if you get some sort of bad infection, like a bladder infection, take the antibiotics.

    I have read that, if anything, eat organic foods that have a porous outer layer such as lettuces and eggs. Not all foods advertised as organic are actually organic. For other veggies such as potatoes or carrots, it's not as important. The best would be to grow your own and then you know for sure.

    Many of our medicines have been derived from plants ( Drugs From Plants ). If you are taking herbs for certain conditions be sure to educate yourself on them as they can have bad side effects as well. Some should not be taken with certain medications.

    As an example, for me, if I get an acidic stomach, it's usually because I haven't eaten enough fruits and veggies or I've eaten too much junk food (yeah I love junk food, particularly chocolate.). A quick fix I've found is eating an apple, having a hot peppermint tea, or taking some ground peppermint and powered ginger capsules that I put together myself (you can buy empty capsules in most health food stores). I try to find a natural alternative for certain situations, other situations I seek the help of a medical professional.

    Diogenesister, Turmeric is supposed to assist with inflammation. A warm drink of lemon, honey, turmeric, and cider vinegar may work some wonders for you.

  • wannaexit
    wannaexit

    I try to be balanced. I don't take natural products, because really there are not regulated. I try and cook from scratch. I try to minimize anything that comes from a box or can. I serve my family plenty of vegetable and fruit everyday and when I can I get locally grown. Not much of a fan of organics

  • done4good
    done4good

    I used to be over 200lbs, had borderline high blood pressure, high LDL cholesterol, triglycerides, etc, and suffered from acid reflux. I am now between 165-170, blood pressure is 120/70, cholesterol and triglycerides are way down, and don't need acid reflux meds anymore. What changed?

    - I stay away from fast food, (or any other processed crap).

    - Moderately work out (not a gym rat)

    - Drink considerably less alcohol

    - Don't eat too late in the day

    - Reduced portions

    I don't deprive myself of things I like. I still eat steaks, cheese, pasta, whatever. It is about being sensible, and not overindulgent.

    d4g

  • Incognito
    Incognito

    Harvard,

    What's with the cigarette thing in your avatar?

    Cigarettes are not usually the symbol for a healthy lifestyle.

  • Finkelstein
    Finkelstein

    I find your endeavor to grow organic foods and be a proponent toward that direction while at the same time being a cigarette smoker kind of puzzling.

    You are aware of the heath hazards relating to smoking tobacco don't you. ???

    Doing so is far more dangerous to your health than eating GMO grown based foods or taking pharmaceutical drugs for aliments.

  • talesin
    talesin
    I'm open to discussion and never closed minded. I'll take medication if I need them but that is a last resort. They have their place but not the way the industry pushes it like candy.

    Since I left the JWS at a young age, I've relied on nutrition and exercise to help with my physical ailments, and, like you, take drugs only when necessary. When I was very young, I'd been given far too many scrips, and by age 20, already had stomach bleeds from NSAIDs and resistance to antibiotics. Pharma has its place, but I don't rely on popping pills to solve my problems.

    Some people take issue with the term 'holistic', because it has been co-opted (mostly in the USA) by snake-oil salesmen selling their hooey. "Holistic" means treating the patient as a whole, the mind and body are one. Period.

    I'm with you on the organics, too. Good for you! They taste better (for sure), and hey, if people wish to believe that ingesting pesticides and hormones via our food supply is not harmful, they can have at it. Ignorance is bliss!

  • macys
    macys

    I wish I had the money to eat organic stuff. I love LOVE LOVE Whole Foods but its too expensive for me. So I just buy organic fruits that have edible skin and organic milk and organic soy. That is all I can afford.

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