Gerrit Lösch gives a special talk the Norval Assembly Hall in Georgetown Canada

by wannaexit 61 Replies latest jw friends

  • Scully
    Scully

    Guess what?

    The WTS has been railing against Higher Education™ for over half a century. They bullied me out of it on my first go at learning a vocation after high school.

    Twelve years later I went back to college, against cries of "But Armageddon™ is Right Around the Corner™!" and three years following that, I graduated with Honours. In a few weeks' time I will have graduated 20 years ago.

    Armageddon™ is not coming. There is no New System™. Everyone is going to grow old and die. I don't say that to be discouraging, but to emphasize that THIS is the ONLY LIFE we have, and it's up to each person to make the most of the life they have. If you have talent, develop it. If you have a thirst for knowledge and a drive to achieve goals and a career, then GO FOR IT.

    The only reason the WTS has been successful at getting people to delay or forfeit their education and career and even marriage and family, is because they've convinced their followers that there's plenty of time for all that in the New System™. They're LYING. It's what they do.

    They've convinced people to live as though they'll never die, which makes people believe they can put things off indefinitely. Living with the certainty of death helps people set goals for themselves, to do or try things when they have the opportunity, because those opportunities may not come again. Plan for your future, because the one the WTS offers is a worthless pile of crap.

  • hoser
    hoser

    This is good. Mrs hoser is dragging me to the one tomorrow morning. She is pro education. It will surely piss her off

  • jp1692
    jp1692

    R&R, I saw that same skit back in the ‘80s.

    The people in the skits I saw are now in their 50s and 60s, if they’re alive at all.

    I ignored this bullshit advice, got a college degree and an able to make a good living doing work I love.

    As a teacher, I help young people to THINK FOR THEMSELVES!

  • waton
    waton
    So an uneducated person rails against education

    What do you mean by uneducated don't be demeaning, he has a degree in gastronomy (serving on tables) not astronomy tabulations.

    Don't underestimate the Austrians, a budding artist from there almost started started his millennium, history has a way to repeat itself. well, he started it, but it did not last 12, had no overlapping generation.

  • Uzzah
    Uzzah

    Anyone know where he is speaking tomorrow (Sunday). He and his wife entertained me in their room for a glass of wine pre-lunch while visiting their Branch Office many years ago. Would enjoy catching up and telling him of my path since then. But I would have to put on a suit and shave my beard. Bah.. Not worth it

  • Richard_I
    Richard_I

    Yeah I had to suffer thru it too.

    His stupid "guy tried to kill himself to escape OCD, but instead cured it, so don't go to this extreme" illustration (or whatever the hell you call it) annoyed me - he used a man's attempted suicide as a joke basically.

    Also wow at his porn facts - I think he REALLY liked talking about those stats. He talked about how many ppl access porn sites in a minute, in an hour, how many films are produced in the US in 24 hours, how 9/10 men and 3/10 women regularly access online porn, etc.

    After that I lost concentration and have no recollection of what exactly he talked about - he's a terribly dull speaker. But yeah he came down super hard on education.

    He brought up the fact that "70% of freshman go to post-secondary for MORE MONEY" - of course this is what ppl focus on when going to post-secondary. Does he seriously expect people to make over $20/hour without a post-secondary education, with the exception of trades? (I know you can get a good salary without post-secondary but this is increasingly hard to do in the 2010s) I guess we all should be making minimum wage for the rest of our lives and focus on pioneering!

    Including the musical interlude, Watchtower summary, Canada stats, and Losch's talk, the program was 2h 40m... zzzzzzz

  • TheWonderofYou
    TheWonderofYou
    He talked about how many ppl access porn sites in a minute, in an hour, how many films are produced in the US in 24 hours, how 9/10 men and 3/10 women regularly access online porn, etc.

    So the GB demonstrates herewith how much it is more advantegous to be well informed about exciting current porn statistics than choosing a higher education. So how well and often should publishers imitate this demonstration of "lower porn education" and inform themselves about porn statistics instead of going to university? And shall we wait until it appears in WT stud, studd, studd-y artickles as higher education?

    Exciting facts to make his talk less boring. Better a surreal battle in mind against porn than trading with real life

  • stuckinarut2
    stuckinarut2

    Damn...the paranoia is ramping up!

    The GB are running scared, and worried that JWs may actually become SMARTER than they are, and realise the whole thing is a joke!

  • stuckinarut2
    stuckinarut2

    And...and...For fear of sounding bitter, let me go on a little rant:

    IF I was allowed to actually pursue higher education, I could have become a doctor. I would have done this NOT for the money, but to actually HELP people!

    For the GB to stigmatize the genuine motives of those who want to expand their education, and for them to attempt to reframe it as a "selfish" pursuit, is one of the most damaging, and manipulative cult tactics ! HOW DARE THEY!

    OK, rant over. Thanks for indulging me....

  • hoser
    hoser
    Richard_I8 hours ago8 hours ago8 hours ago

    Yeah I had to suffer thru it too.

    His stupid "guy tried to kill himself to escape OCD, but instead cured it, so don't go to this extreme" illustration (or whatever the hell you call it) annoyed me - he used a man's attempted suicide as a joke basically.

    Did he really use that story again? I thought it was debunked as being unverifiable

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